can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im not sure i have seen something this dumb posted before

Sadly, I think you would admit that we have saw many posts this dumb...but this is definitely down there

[Green1]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I agree Zorn is just over his head. It had a chance to be a real feel good story about a hippie from Seattle coming to a major market and being our next HOF coach but in the end he looks like a two year old in the deep end of the pool with no floaties.

I like the Jeff Garica idea a lot, I mean this season is most likely done, he would make it exiciting. I know this is only week one but in Danny's mind this is a throw away season, Zorn and Campbell fail get high draft pick and pick up one of the high profile coachs. Already have a strong defense, new coach comes in rebuilds the offense and we are off and running in a couple of years.

Your right Zorn needs help like a special Off assistant. Someone who knows and has had success with the west coast. Jeff Garcia maybe a good idea but I dont think its campbell is play calling. They better pick him up before Carolina does.

[Monkeydad]

Cutler:
17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating

Sanchez:
18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating

Campbell:
19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Buster

Cutler:
17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating

Sanchez:
18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating

Campbell:
19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating

Almost half of Campbell’s yards came on that TD drive to Cooley when the Giants were playing prevent defense having been up by 2 TD’s. 73% completion percentage is easy when you’re throwing check downs to your TE, slot receiver and RB’s.

This is more telling.

#1 receiver – Moss – 2 catches for 6 yards
#2 receiver – Kelly – 1 catch for 6 yards

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Almost half of Campbell’s yards came on that TD drive to Cooley when the Giants were playing prevent defense having been up by 2 TD’s. 73% completion percentage is easy when you’re throwing check downs to your TE, slot receiver and RB’s.

This is more telling.

#1 receiver – Moss – 2 catches for 6 yards
#2 receiver – Kelly – 1 catch for 6 yards

Changing colors doesn't make your points any more valid. 70 out of 211 is not almost half. So now throwing to the slot receiver is a 'check down'. Define a check down for me. Randle El must be the best open field runner in NFL history if he got nearly 100 yards on 'check-downs'. In order for our offense to grow we need to get the outside WR more involved, no argument there. Also in order for that to happen, we need a huge improvement in play calling.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Changing colors doesn't make your points any more valid. 70 out of 211 is not almost half. So now throwing to the slot receiver is a 'check down'. Define a check down for me. Randle El must be the best open field runner in NFL history if he got nearly 100 yards on 'check-downs'. In order for our offense to grow we need to get the outside WR more involved, no argument there. Also in order for that to happen, we need a huge improvement in play calling.

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

About my "dumbest" statement it was pulled out of context. I am saying this season is not a legit run at a Super Bowl, it is a make or break season for Zorn/Campbell and after yesterday's game it is looking more like break. More then anything I hope they do will I don't want to watch us rebuild again but sadly that looks like the road we are headed down and it is not just one game, I am looking back from week nine of last season. Right now from that point Zorn/Campbell are 2-9, really they are not tearing up the league.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

Plagiarism at its finest! Hey, I guess its acceptable now with our new VP.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

About my "dumbest" statement it was pulled out of context. I am saying this season is not a legit run at a Super Bowl, it is a make or break season for Zorn/Campbell and after yesterday's game it is looking more like break. More then anything I hope they do will I don't want to watch us rebuild again but sadly that looks like the road we are headed down and it is not just one game, I am looking back from week nine of last season. Right now from that point Zorn/Campbell are 2-9, really they are not tearing up the league.

What's Portis, Fletcher, Cooley, Rogers and Bugel's record during that stretch?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

About my "dumbest" statement it was pulled out of context. I am saying this season is not a legit run at a Super Bowl, it is a make or break season for Zorn/Campbell and after yesterday's game it is looking more like break. More then anything I hope they do will I don't want to watch us rebuild again but sadly that looks like the road we are headed down and it is not just one game, I am looking back from week nine of last season. Right now from that point Zorn/Campbell are 2-9, really they are not tearing up the league.

Unfortunately giving context is not helping your statements.
1) Last year was last year. Let it go.
2) We are 0-1 this year, having lost what was likely our toughest divisional road game of the year. We lost by six points in the Giants' house. We were supposed to lose in their house, just as they should lose in ours. And, if we had gotten the onside kick, we might have won the game.

We can still make a Super Bowl run. And no one rebuilds from 0-1.

Giving up on the season now is like giving up on a college education because you got a D in the first grade.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Almost half of Campbell’s yards came on that TD drive to Cooley when the Giants were playing prevent defense having been up by 2 TD’s. 73% completion percentage is easy when you’re throwing check downs to your TE, slot receiver and RB’s.

This is more telling.

#1 receiver – Moss – 2 catches for 6 yards
#2 receiver – Kelly – 1 catch for 6 yards

First of all, you're horrible at math. Secondly, if you want to nitpick about who made up his passing yards, 199 YDs to other receivers.

Would you prefer to have 4 INTs from Cutler?

I'll admit, that audible to a run on 3rd and long late in the game was HORRIBLE, but he'll learn from that mistake. Zorn will not let that mistake go unnoticed.

Whether Zorn makes good playcalls or not, you can't argue he's a perfectionist and demands perfection from his players, especially the QB position. If you're ever seen their practices, you'd know this.

[bigant]

guys campbell and zorn stink really bad .get rid of both of them now, we are not signing campbell anyway at the end of the season,and zorns play calling is the worst in the league . we run zone left or right and then throw a two yard pass on 3 and 8yds to go please do it now

[BrunellMVP?]

I'm not giving up on Campbell but I cannot Cannot CANNOT believe that he didn't know it was 3 and 8 when he audible to the run. It is unforgivable to be unaware of the situation. I'm at a loss.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

I'm not giving up on Campbell but I cannot Cannot CANNOT believe that he didn't know it was 3 and 8 when he audible to the run. It is unforgivable to be unaware of the situation. I'm at a loss.

Agree 100%.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

I'm not giving up on Campbell but I cannot Cannot CANNOT believe that he didn't know it was 3 and 8 when he audible to the run. It is unforgivable to be unaware of the situation. I'm at a loss.

Many are concerned however about the mental errors that continue to be a part of his game. If you don't learn from your mistakes you're doomed to repeat them. How long do we wait for the problem to be corrected. That fumble yesterday was one of the plays that helped decide the game. No excuses.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Many are concerned however about the mental errors that continue to be a part of his game. If you don't learn from your mistakes you're doomed to repeat them. How long do we wait for the problem to be corrected. That fumble yesterday was one of the plays that helped decide the game. No excuses.

I agree.

At this point, Campbell is not ready to make deciding plays that win games on a consistent basis. In close games, he also makes basic fundamental mistakes that contribute directly to a loss.

It's hard to have this kind of inconsistent play from the quarterback on any team. Good teams like the giants are going to make the redskins offense one dimensional. I would think it's more sophisticated then this, but stack against the run, and let campbell beat you. And at this point, campbell is not ready enough to beat a team like the giants.

And I know it's a team effort for football, but so much of the game is run through the qb, especially when the other team is intent on shutting the running game down.

On the bright side, the redskins are good enough to win the next 3 games though.