can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im not sure i have seen something this dumb posted before

BTW dmek25 this song is for you, Zorn and Campbell.

YouTube - ~*.:Keep Holding On, Hinata:.*~

"Keep hold on, man you guys will make it!"

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by irish

Zorn is a bit too laid back IMO but I think if the players need him to get them motivated for opening week vs a divisional rival then its the players that have the problem. I really now believe that the core group of players are unmotivated losers who too easily accept defeat and make excuses for not executing. I know it can never be done but I really think the Skins need a total house cleaning of a large group of players.

Yup. As long as it isn't London Fletcher, I'm cool with that.

[bigant]

guys campbell and zorn stink really bad .get rid of both of them now, we are not signing campbell anyway at the end of the season,and zorns play calling is the worst in the league . we run zone left or right and then throw a two yard pass on 3 and 8yds to go please do it now

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im not sure i have seen something this dumb posted before

Sadly, I think you would admit that we have saw many posts this dumb...but this is definitely down there

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Almost half of Campbell’s yards came on that TD drive to Cooley when the Giants were playing prevent defense having been up by 2 TD’s. 73% completion percentage is easy when you’re throwing check downs to your TE, slot receiver and RB’s.

This is more telling.

#1 receiver – Moss – 2 catches for 6 yards
#2 receiver – Kelly – 1 catch for 6 yards

Changing colors doesn't make your points any more valid. 70 out of 211 is not almost half. So now throwing to the slot receiver is a 'check down'. Define a check down for me. Randle El must be the best open field runner in NFL history if he got nearly 100 yards on 'check-downs'. In order for our offense to grow we need to get the outside WR more involved, no argument there. Also in order for that to happen, we need a huge improvement in play calling.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Almost half of Campbell’s yards came on that TD drive to Cooley when the Giants were playing prevent defense having been up by 2 TD’s. 73% completion percentage is easy when you’re throwing check downs to your TE, slot receiver and RB’s.

This is more telling.

#1 receiver – Moss – 2 catches for 6 yards
#2 receiver – Kelly – 1 catch for 6 yards

First of all, you're horrible at math. Secondly, if you want to nitpick about who made up his passing yards, 199 YDs to other receivers.

Would you prefer to have 4 INTs from Cutler?

I'll admit, that audible to a run on 3rd and long late in the game was HORRIBLE, but he'll learn from that mistake. Zorn will not let that mistake go unnoticed.

Whether Zorn makes good playcalls or not, you can't argue he's a perfectionist and demands perfection from his players, especially the QB position. If you're ever seen their practices, you'd know this.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Changing colors doesn't make your points any more valid. 70 out of 211 is not almost half. So now throwing to the slot receiver is a 'check down'. Define a check down for me. Randle El must be the best open field runner in NFL history if he got nearly 100 yards on 'check-downs'. In order for our offense to grow we need to get the outside WR more involved, no argument there. Also in order for that to happen, we need a huge improvement in play calling.

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

About my "dumbest" statement it was pulled out of context. I am saying this season is not a legit run at a Super Bowl, it is a make or break season for Zorn/Campbell and after yesterday's game it is looking more like break. More then anything I hope they do will I don't want to watch us rebuild again but sadly that looks like the road we are headed down and it is not just one game, I am looking back from week nine of last season. Right now from that point Zorn/Campbell are 2-9, really they are not tearing up the league.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

Plagiarism at its finest! Hey, I guess its acceptable now with our new VP.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by saden1

Hay dimwits, the Giants are a great team and you're not going to walk into their house and beat easily. JC f*ed up on that fumble...he had plenty of time and could have stepped up in the pocket. Totally on JC.

Remember those fumbles that get you cut from the team when your name is Anthony Alridge? Oh! that's right we can't cut our starting QB I forgot. The fumble by JC yesterday was erily simular to the NE game year before last when he fumbled on two consecutive possessions, and threw an INT on the third. Everyone, everyone needs to be held acountable.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

About my "dumbest" statement it was pulled out of context. I am saying this season is not a legit run at a Super Bowl, it is a make or break season for Zorn/Campbell and after yesterday's game it is looking more like break. More then anything I hope they do will I don't want to watch us rebuild again but sadly that looks like the road we are headed down and it is not just one game, I am looking back from week nine of last season. Right now from that point Zorn/Campbell are 2-9, really they are not tearing up the league.

What's Portis, Fletcher, Cooley, Rogers and Bugel's record during that stretch?

[BrunellMVP?]

I'm not giving up on Campbell but I cannot Cannot CANNOT believe that he didn't know it was 3 and 8 when he audible to the run. It is unforgivable to be unaware of the situation. I'm at a loss.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

I'm not giving up on Campbell but I cannot Cannot CANNOT believe that he didn't know it was 3 and 8 when he audible to the run. It is unforgivable to be unaware of the situation. I'm at a loss.

Agree 100%.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

What's Portis, Fletcher, Cooley, Rogers and Bugel's record during that stretch?

2-9 but when the AX comes it will be Zorn/ Campbell in Oakland or the street.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Buster

Plagiarism at its finest! Hey, I guess its acceptable now with our new VP.

It was my own thought I was having an email fight with a co-worker as well as here. =)

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Sorry to pick on you dude, but comments like this just seem like people who latch onto media commentary and don't actually base things on fact. Other than the fumble and INT, what bad decisions/held the ball too long did he make? In the scheme of the whole game, can you really point to those 2 plays as the entire reason we lost?

Please detail to me his 'bad decisions' and times where he 'held the ball too long'. If you already had your mind made up before the game that he wasn't the answer at QB, I'm cool with that, but say it, don't act as if there were things that happened yesterday to push you over that edge.

Well we did loose by 6 and they got 7 off the fumble so if my math is correct witout that fumble they have one point less so we win. The int. was in an area if we did not score a TD we would have been in FG range so that might be another 3 or 7 points and I'm not sure if the Giants scored after making the int..