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MTK · 08-17-2011, 01:58 PM

What Flacco has done in his first 3 years is impressive, and he's only getting better.

It boggles my mind that anyone could call him junk.

SmootSmack · 08-17-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Never let facts get in the way of conclusions:

1. Patrick Ramsey was the draft pick "mandated" by Danny Boy. He told the Wash Post Magazine that he was the one who "discovered" Ramsey and recognized the strength of Ramsey's arm and realized that the Skins needed to take him before any other team did.

2. Grossman took the Bears to the Super Bowl in the ONLY season that he was the starter for the entire season - - not in his FIRST year as a starter. He was with the Bears for two years after that Super Bowl run; would you like to demonstrate for all of us here what his awe-inspiring stats were for those seasons? My recollection is - - and I will be happy to be corrected here - - that Grossman lost his starting job about 3-5 games into the season after he "led the Bears" to the Super Bowl and that he never recovered his job in Chicago for a season and a half.

3. If - - I said IF - - the Shanahans decide to sit Grossman on the bench and play John Beck at the start of the 2011 season, are you going to say that the Shanahans are a bunch of dummies just like the rest of the NFL because they do not recognize the greatness of Rex Grossman? Remember, you will be saying that a two-time Super Bowl winning head coach is a doofus if that is your position...

4. I still think you are Rex Grossman's mother posting here under the screen-name jonny5dicky.

Not to sidetrack this conversation, but that's not exactly true about #1. Regardless of what Snyder told the WaPo Magazine. Ramsey was not their first choice. Choice #1. Heck 1-3 was Joey Harrington. They tried desperately to move up to get him. When that option failed, they decided they would sit at #18 and wait to see if Donte Stallworth fell to them. When that didn't happen is when they mobilized a trade down with the Patriots to get Ramsey and add picks later in the draft. He can say he "discovered" Ramsey (whatever that means) and that Ramsey was the guy they wanted. But I can tell you first hand it was really Joey Harrington all along. Why do you think they were so close to trading Ramsey to the Bears before he even took a snap with the team?

Ok, now back to the topic at hand

skinster · 08-17-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

What Flacco has done in his first 3 years is impressive, and he's only getting better.

It boggles my mind that anyone could call him junk.

I tend to overexagerate, but the sentiment stays the same. I just have high standards, and don't believe him to be a Franchise qb. I really think that if JC was drafted by the ravens, there wouldnt be too much of a difference of the Ravens outcomes. He's good enough to start somewhere, so "junk" maybe not the right word. But no matter what I call him, I still don't want him to be my franchise qb.

mredskins · 08-17-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

What Flacco has done in his first 3 years is impressive, and he's only getting better.

It boggles my mind that anyone could call him junk.

I have watched Flacco a lot especially living in the Baltimore area. He is a good solid QB who has trouble when the game is on the line. Many here had hoped he would be their Manning/Brady. He is not them nor will he ever be.

I honestly beleive he has peaked, he is right now what he will always be a good solid starter in this league but will never be a super star.

Jontrem · 08-17-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

I have watched Flacco a lot especially living in the Baltimore area. He is a good solid QB who has trouble when the game is on the line. Many here had hoped he would be their Manning/Brady. He is not them nor will he ever be.

I honestly beleive he has peaked, he is right now what he will always be a good solid starter in this league but will never be a super star.

I think he can improve with the speed of his decision making and reading his progressions.

MTK · 08-17-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

I have watched Flacco a lot especially living in the Baltimore area. He is a good solid QB who has trouble when the game is on the line. Many here had hoped he would be their Manning/Brady. He is not them nor will he ever be.

I honestly beleive he has peaked, he is right now what he will always be a good solid starter in this league but will never be a super star.

He's going into his 4th year and you think he's peaked?

skinsfaninok · 08-17-2011, 03:08 PM

I think he's a solid QB but he'll never be a SB caliber QB IMO

Dirtbag59 · 08-17-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not to sidetrack this conversation, but that's not exactly true about #1. Regardless of what Snyder told the WaPo Magazine. Ramsey was not their first choice. Choice #1. Heck 1-3 was Joey Harrington. They tried desperately to move up to get him. When that option failed, they decided they would sit at #18 and wait to see if Donte Stallworth fell to them. When that didn't happen is when they mobilized a trade down with the Patriots to get Ramsey and add picks later in the draft. He can say he "discovered" Ramsey (whatever that means) and that Ramsey was the guy they wanted. But I can tell you first hand it was really Joey Harrington all along. Why do you think they were so close to trading Ramsey to the Bears before he even took a snap with the team?

Ok, now back to the topic at hand

Oh yeah, almost forgot how much the Skins loved Freddy Prinz Jr, I mean Joey Harrington in that draft.

Vaguely recall reported interest in Stallworth.

mredskins · 08-17-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

He's going into his 4th year and you think he's peaked?

Yup! Watch I would not be surprised if he took a step back with the lost of Mason and Heap.

MTK · 08-17-2011, 03:24 PM

lol this place cracks me up I swear

mredskins · 08-17-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol this place cracks me up I swear

Tell me why do you think he is so special? I have watched everyone of his pro games.

When I watch the Ravens O The only player that stands out to me as special is Ray Rice. Their offense which is not bad has been their weak point over the years and the leader of that O is Joe.

Lotus · 08-17-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

I have watched Flacco a lot especially living in the Baltimore area. He is a good solid QB who has trouble when the game is on the line. Many here had hoped he would be their Manning/Brady. He is not them nor will he ever be.

I honestly beleive he has peaked, he is right now what he will always be a good solid starter in this league but will never be a super star.

Some people sad the same thing about Peyton Manning early in his career: not good at the end of games, underperforms in the playoffs, etc.

Flacco is just starting to enter his prime.

MTK · 08-17-2011, 04:07 PM

I never said he was special, he's a good QB, better than some of you are giving him credit for that's for sure. I just think it's funny to say a 4th year guy has already peaked.

mredskins · 08-17-2011, 04:10 PM

OK I will eat my crow if he turns out to be the next great thing, I don't see it.

mredskins · 08-17-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I never said he was special, he's a good QB, better than some of you are giving him credit for that's for sure. I just think it's funny to say a 4th year guy has already peaked.

So if he is a good QB now and he has not yet peaked in your opinion then the next step would logically be that he would be come "special". So yes you are saying he is on the "special" path.

I am just saying the dude peaked and he is now a good but not great QB, I don't see him making the special step.

If given the choice between him and Matt Ryan I take MR.

08-17-2011, 01:58 PM	#151
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,570	Re: sam bradford What Flacco has done in his first 3 years is impressive, and he's only getting better. It boggles my mind that anyone could call him junk. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-17-2011, 03:08 PM	#157
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,155	Re: sam bradford I think he's a solid QB but he'll never be a SB caliber QB IMO __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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08-17-2011, 04:07 PM	#163
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,570	Re: sam bradford I never said he was special, he's a good QB, better than some of you are giving him credit for that's for sure. I just think it's funny to say a 4th year guy has already peaked. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-17-2011, 04:10 PM	#164
mredskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,876	Re: sam bradford OK I will eat my crow if he turns out to be the next great thing, I don't see it. __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

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