'Occupy' types

[Alvin Walton]

This protester cant get a job because there is too much homeland security and stuff.
You know...
You know...
You know...
I think she is Emmit Smiths sister.

Haftin' To Be Uproared - Occupy Atlanta - YouTube

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

This protester cant get a job because there is too much homeland security and stuff.
You know...
You know...
You know...
I think she is Emmit Smiths sister.

Haftin' To Be Uproared - Occupy Atlanta - YouTube

Oh god, that was brutal!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by saden1

Oh god, that was brutal!

Did you see this one?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Did you see this one?

LOL...good god, these people are so stupid. That question was way too simple and could have been answered sensibly.

He just wants his tuition paid for, I want to own the Redskins. Come on Snyder, donate the Skins to me already!

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

This protester cant get a job because there is too much homeland security and stuff.
You know...
You know...
You know...
I think she is Emmit Smiths sister.

Haftin' To Be Uproared - Occupy Atlanta - YouTube

That was, you know, pretty good. And from SS's:

The camera man at the end: "well from my perspective youve written stuff on a sign like a Christmas list and youre holding it in the air"

Protester: "yeah, why not"

To echo SS, we have all made choices that reflect what we want in life and what were willing to do to get it. Would i like to be a billionaire CEO and have multiple vacation homes. Sure. But i personally have not done the things required to get to that point, nor am willing to put in the effort and time or take the chance to one day get there, its just not all that important to me.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

To echo SS, we have all made choices that reflect what we want in life and what were willing to do to get it. Would i like to be a billionaire CEO and have multiple vacation homes. Sure. But i personally have not done the things required to get to that point, nor am willing to put in the effort and time or take the chance to one day get there, its just not all that important to me.

yeah thats me to. im not out to work harder than everyone else so i can be a millionaire. i dont want a mansion, i dont want multiple high end cars.

i want to work, be good at my job and be paid accordingly (70k plus bonus to increase with inflation/cost of living). i want to be able to leave work at 5-6 most days, have dinner with the kids, if i want to go to disneyworld i will plan and save a few months ahead, send the kid to state college if he doesnt get a scholarship, by the time im 45 have a house big enough for a guest bedroom, have decent healthcare, play golf on saturdays and drink beer on sundays.

that is the american dream and im an american.

what i dont need is BofA scamming me out of my money when im low on funds. what i dont need is being overly taxed b/c govt cant control themselves and give benefits to their corporate friends.

build hospitals and schools with my tax money, not bombs and schools in iraq. **** iraq.

taxes already take what? 45% of our paychecks off the break. then they tax me 4.5k in property tax for a city that cant fill a pot hole and hire police that cut in line and treat you like shit.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Im in the middle on this. Im nearly positive the injuries to the Marine came from a tear gas container or other crowd disbursement weapon fired from the police. But the guy should have fled once the police started firing tear gas, instead he just stood there and took on the risk that something could happen. If he had left he wouldn’t have been hit by a canister and perhaps the police wouldn’t have had the need to fire additional canisters. I think police abuse powers but that doesn’t give me the right not to pull over when a cop car flashes his lights, or waive my responsibility to disperse when they fire tear gas at me.

How dare you not have a polarized option!

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by hooskins

How dare you not have a polarized option!

i sicken myself....

[NC_Skins]

The problem I have with a few up here is that if the issue affect YOU, then you'd be up and arms about it. Most of you guys are affected, so you simply don't care who or what gets hurt. I suppose it's typical, but it reminds me of this saying.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

At some point, something you stand for is going to be affected and nobody is going to be there to support you. If you don't take a stand for other people's plights and causes, then don't expect anything when it comes your turn. Trust me, there will be a your turn.

So far, I've had some of the posters up here push me into this category that I:

1) Hate corporations
2) Hate rich people
3) Jealous of people's success

The reality is you don't know me, my financial status or anything of the sort to make such comments. I will tell you that I have a cushy job as a network engineer for the state. I'm in the top 8% of salaries in the city I live in, and benefits out the ass. I haven't lost my house, declared bankruptcy, or underwater in debt. I have absolutely NOTHING to complain about. Banks haven't ****ed me over, and neither has any corporation.

That doesn't mean I can't see and understand people's plight in regards to these institutions. If I see something not right, I say something. I don't say something only because it affects me. Try caring for your fellow human mankind even if his plight doesn't affect you. You never know, one day you may need his help in your struggle. Then again, you are probably the kind of person who think you'll never need help. I guess it's easier to sit back, stereotype the individuals and mock their view points and protesting.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

That doesn't mean I can't see and understand people's plight in regards to these institutions. If I see something not right, I say something. I don't say something only because it affects me. Try caring for your fellow human mankind even if his plight doesn't affect you. You never know, one day you may need his help in your struggle. Then again, you are probably the kind of person who think you'll never need help. I guess it's easier to sit back, stereotype the individuals and mock their view points and protesting.

And there is the crux of it ... you accuse others of judging you and yet you blatantly judge others.

I, too, see and understand the people's plight as do many others who have posted in this thread. We also see that the OWS movement, like yourself, is failing to provide and/or detail a road map for change. Just like crowd control is not just a matter of "blocking off a couple streets", the institutional problems of the market and financial system are not things that can be fixed by simply hacking away at them. Stop assuming we don't sympathize with some of the goals of the OWS just b/c we assert they haven't done anything but complain about them.

To me, you seem to assume that people, who aren't ready to throw people in jail b/c things "seem like fraud" to you, are ignoring the problem. That's simply not true. B/c I don't agree with your characterizations doesn't mean I don't see a problem or that I am unsympathetic to some of their goals. To me, the anger that permeates your posts is almost tangible, is incredibly judgmental of those who don't agree wholeheartedly with your take on things, and makes it difficult to actually discuss the nuts and bolts of solutions to the problems identified by the OWS and others. My perception is that any demand for specifics as a precursor to judging the OWS's relevance is met with fury on your part.

All I have ever asserted is that the OWS has many and varied goals some of which I sympathize with and that the movement, in its current form, is not an effective a grassroots movement because it has identified not concrete plan to effect change.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

And there is the crux of it ... you accuse others of judging you and yet you blatantly judge others.

I figured if that type of debate was good for you guys, then I should follow suit. Hey, you're lucky I kept it simple. I was going to ramble about you all being most likely racist since you like to stereotype people. Generally those that like to stereotype usually end up being racists as well. See how stupid that sounds? I agree. Let's stop the stereotyping going on in here. Thanks in advance.


Group hug?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by nc_skins

i figured if that type of debate was good for you guys, then i should follow suit. Hey, you're lucky i kept it simple. I was going to ramble about you all being most likely racist since you like to stereotype people. Generally those that like to stereotype usually end up being racists as well. See how stupid that sounds? I agree. Let's stop the stereotyping going on in here. Thanks in advance.


group hug?

#99%+1%=1<3<3%

[NC_Skins]

Parks and Demonstration - Oakland Riot - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 10/26/11 - Video Clip | Comedy Central


Jon Stewart is the best...lol

[SmootSmack]

I guess the main thing for me is a) I don't fully understand what they are protesting and b) it seems like a lot of it is about some people having more success, however you define that (money, power, etc) than others.

But the way I see it, I'm as responsible as anyone else for not being part of the 1%. Do I wish made more money, had more pull in society, etc? Sure, but it's not like opportunities weren't afforded me. As I'm sure is the case for many protesting. I'm doing well, but I could have done better. I could have studied harder, done a better job along my career, whatever. My point is it seems, at least to me (and I've said this before), that a lot of this protesting is just to say "look at us, we're protesting" and that too few people involved are willing to take any responsibility of their own for where they are.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But the way I see it, I'm as responsible as anyone else for not being part of the 1%. Do I wish made more money, had more pull in society, etc? Sure, but it's not like opportunities weren't afforded me. As I'm sure is the case for many protesting. I'm doing well, but I could have done better. I could have studied harder, done a better job along my career, whatever. My point is it seems, at least to me (and I've said this before), that a lot of this protesting is just to say "look at us, we're protesting" and that too few people involved are willing to take any responsibility of their own for where they are.

That's a false illusion they want you to think Smoot. Truth is, you are born into a select group of people or you get lucky. I'll guarantee you there are people out there that have put in more effort, time, schooling than some of these high paid CEOs of corporations, but they'll never see the type of compensation.

It's almost the same way here in the state. You'd think the hard workers would get promoted, or those with education. Nope. It's a good ole boy network, and if you can shoot the shit, tell a good fishing story, then you are in there like swim wear.

Reminds me of this conference call we were on with my boss and our director. There was a new position opening up, and they were talking loosely about candidates for that job. My boss mentions one guy who would have been a 100% match for the position. He was liked, smart as hell, hard worker and knew what the hell he was doing. My boss then goes on to state...."Nah, they'd never give a guy like that the job, he's too valuable where he is".

In fact, the guy that got hired was a former employee here (that people hated), and was the worst candidate for the job and had the worst interview. Why'd he get it? Because the CIO and the guy under him were buddies with him and that's all that mattered.

This happens in corporations as well. Ivy league connections. Wealth connections. Sorry, but you can be middle class and work your ass off and never see the type of success like they will simply because of the circle you were born in. That doesn't mean we shouldn't work hard or strive to be better people, it just means that doing those doesn't equate to success on that level.