Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess

Player_HTTR · 03-22-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

we'll forfeit the $2million you essentially just gave us and the higher cap ceiling we enjoyed as a result of your penalty.'

They HAVE to spend whatever percentage of that 2million that they otherwise would not have too. The whole fight between the players and owners is the owners want to spend less money. I'll leave the rest unsaid.

NM I'll say it. 2mil in cap space isn't enough to help most teams out, its dead money that gets wasted in the owners eyes having to pay out the 90% (or whatever it is) to the same player base they would have had without the 2 mil. IMO of course.

That's not including the difference in salary cap space the MCEC (or whatever it is) used as a BRIBE for the NFLPA. Even with that additional money they get to spend the player base is still the same players really.

If I'm the owner of a small market team or not 1 player away from being a SuperBowl contender I am pissed about the dick move pulled by the few in the name of the many. But I could be wrong.

MTK · 03-22-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Why would any one of the 28 teams not penalized go along with this? Owners: 'OK Bruce, you can have the money back, we'll forfeit the $2million you essentially just gave us and the higher cap ceiling we enjoyed as a result of your penalty.'

I don't see that happening...

Well it would be 30 teams, and I think there's a good chance a few owners didn't agree with the decision.

WaldSkins · 03-22-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Well it would be 30 teams, and I think there's a good chance a few owners didn't agree with the decision.

Wouldnt it be 28 other teams because the redskins, cowboys, saints, and raiders were all found guilty of dropping the money on the cap

mbedner3420 · 03-22-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Wouldnt it be 28 other teams because the redskins, cowboys, saints, and raiders were all found guilty of dropping the money on the cap

That's what I was going off of.

Giantone · 03-22-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Why would any one of the 28 teams not penalized go along with this? Owners: 'OK Bruce, you can have the money back, we'll forfeit the $2million you essentially just gave us and the higher cap ceiling we enjoyed as a result of your penalty.'

I don't see that happening...

Agreed, the NFL will get something .You want the cap space back...sure ,you lose your first pick of this years draft........,take your time and think about it.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-22-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Agreed, the NFL will get something .You want the cap space back...sure ,you lose your first pick of this years draft........,take your time and think about it.

:confused:

AYJAX · 03-22-2012, 08:40 PM

What happens next year if when the money is divided up between the owners and players and the salary cap is still below what it currently is. This year if Goodell didn't give the NFLPA a cap bribe the cap would have been around $116M . Now it is $120.6M, is it going to go up another $1.6M for other teams next year. or is there a chance of it going down because the NFL no longer needs to make the NFLPA drop more charges.If the 4 teams that got shafted this year get shafted next year that would suck.

Brody81 · 03-23-2012, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Agreed, the NFL will get something .You want the cap space back...sure ,you lose your first pick of this years draft........,take your time and think about it.

Clearly wants to get a reaction out of us.. Let's just ignore him in hopes he will leave.

NC_Skins · 03-23-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Agreed, the NFL will get something .You want the cap space back...sure ,you lose your first pick of this years draft........,take your time and think about it.

If Goodell tried to take away our 1st rounder this year, he wouldn't have to worry about Danny coming after him, he'd have Redskins nation after his ass. Knowing how stupid some fans are, wouldn't be surprised if he got shot.

Monkeydad · 03-23-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Agreed, the NFL will get something .You want the cap space back...sure ,you lose your first pick of this years draft........,take your time and think about it.

Sure, after your team agrees to forfeit the Super Bowl win for cheating all season:

Without that win, no playoffs, no Super Bowl.

SBXVII · 03-23-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Sure, after your team agrees to forfeit the Super Bowl win for cheating all season:

Without that win, no playoffs, no Super Bowl.

91 and 59 just walk over their teamates. lol. They should have been penalized for delay of game. If nothing else for #57 since he got back up. Both should have had to sit out one play as well.

Giantone · 03-23-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Sure, after your team agrees to forfeit the Super Bowl win for cheating all season:

Without that win, no playoffs, no Super Bowl.

LOL.....let it go Jr,want some cheese with your whine?

MTK · 03-22-2012, 07:39 PM

Ok gotcha

SBXVII · 03-22-2012, 08:56 PM

I think this thing is going to start getting interesting pretty soon....

Oh by the way Giantone... no collusion? apparently the players see it as collusion also.

Sources: NFL players' union strong-armed into 'collusion', led to penalties for Cowboys, Redskins - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

Dirtbag59 · 03-22-2012, 08:57 PM

I call bogus. Huge Redskin fan, big names all in attendance and he's watching womens basketball? Tis a lie!

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So I mind my own business sitting at the bar watching the Baylor women playing on the TV. I overhear some of his conversation. I believe he was talking to DeMaurice Smith of the NFLPA. He was complaining about the league's salary cap penalties. I wish I could give out more specific details but I couldn't follow enough.

If Bruce Allen wasn't doing football he'd be at some Fortune 500 company as the CMO.

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Eventually he hangs up and he instantly engages me... He said "what are you doing wearing that hat?" I mention it is because of my love for the Redskins at which point he stands up and shakes my hand. He asked me how long I have been a Redskins fan and where I was from. I told him I was too young when his dad coached the team and that I became a fan during Gibbs 1 era.. Some of the highlights.....I asked him about the salary cap fiasco and he told me in no uncertain terms they are going to fight it and so are the Cowboys.

03-22-2012, 08:40 PM	#7
AYJAX Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Annapolis, Md Posts: 22	Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess What happens next year if when the money is divided up between the owners and players and the salary cap is still below what it currently is. This year if Goodell didn't give the NFLPA a cap bribe the cap would have been around $116M . Now it is $120.6M, is it going to go up another $1.6M for other teams next year. or is there a chance of it going down because the NFL no longer needs to make the NFLPA drop more charges.If the 4 teams that got shafted this year get shafted next year that would suck.

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03-22-2012, 08:56 PM	#14
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess I think this thing is going to start getting interesting pretty soon.... Oh by the way Giantone... no collusion? apparently the players see it as collusion also. Sources: NFL players' union strong-armed into 'collusion', led to penalties for Cowboys, Redskins - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

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