Redskins Trademark cancelled

[Meks]

As I have previously stated... I literally will never... Buy and any other merchandize under any other name or logo... I will simply get new players and such from black market sources and the internet. I will forever rep the R ... And the redskins and all the logos we have come to love. To me this hurts the heart and is truly ridiculous after allllllll these years. FUCK off to everyone involved honestly. Long live the Washington Redskins

[CrustyRedskin]

Id like to hear Donald Sterlings take on this issue.

[Chico23231]

To me an offensive word is obvious right after it stated. Kinda wierd people are debating because we arent sure if it is or not.

What word is next?

Its also really strange banning the n word on the field has gotten push back, but the word Redskins seems more offensive.

Something is seriously wrong with this country and I think the media has something to do with it.

[over the mountain]

reasonable minds can certainly disagree on this issue.

i think there are 3 camps:

1- people who want the name to stay
2 - people who want the name to change
3 - people who are not personally offended by the name and support and sport the name but wouldnt put up to much of a fight to change the name if native americans are truly offended

im in camp 3.

this discussion has certainly expanded my mind with some great posts and thoughts from both sides.

i highly recommend listening to Amanda Blackhorse's interview on the junkies to put a voice to the native american dissent.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

reasonable minds can certainly disagree on this issue.

i think there are 3 camps:

1- people who want the name to stay
2 - people who want the name to change
3 - people who are not personally offended by the name and support and sport the name but wouldnt put up to much of a fight to change the name if native americans are truly offended

im in camp 3.

this discussion has certainly expanded my mind with some great posts and thoughts from both sides.

i highly recommend listening to Amanda Blackhorse's interview on the junkies to put a voice to the native american dissent.

I am in camp 3 as well.

[ram29jackson]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am in camp 3 as well.

well, then get out of the way with your less than passive aggressive crap because you wont help the cause !!!

I'm just making a joke here, I don't actually mean anything negative towards you

[rainsleetorHail]

Word definitions are determined one of two ways: prescriptively (authoritarian) or descriptively (democratically, determined by how they are in face used). Contemporary American dictionaries lean towards the latter.

Anyone who has looked up words in a dictionary knows there are often more than one senses or meanings listed for a given word.

The word Redskins--the team name--is obviously not used disparagingly nor as a slur (the team named themselves that, fans are proud of the name, etc.).

Therefore the patent office (as are name-changers) is making the error of conflating two different usages or meanings of the word Redskins, and should reverse their decision.

[ram29jackson]

Originally Posted by rainsleetorHail

Word definitions are determined one of two ways: prescriptively (authoritarian) or descriptively (democratically, determined by how they are in face used). Contemporary American dictionaries lean towards the latter.

Anyone who has looked up words in a dictionary knows there are often more than one senses or meanings listed for a given word.

The word Redskins--the team name--is obviously not used disparagingly nor as a slur (the team named themselves that, fans are proud of the name, etc.).

Therefore the patent office (as are name-changers) is making the error of conflating two different usages or meanings of the word Redskins, and should reverse their decision.

for example websters defines homophobia as though it were an actual thing when in fact there is absolutely no case study that proves anyone actually has that phobia.

[ram29jackson]

After hearing Amanda Blackhorse speak I now understand more of where she is coming from. I feel that she, and as a whole the group she represents, don't whole heartily deep down think Redskins is anywhere close to the n word. I get the impression that what molded her mind was actually seeing belligerent fans dressed in tacky Indian head dresses and gear. Which is something I can actually understand. Seeing someone stumbling through a parking lot wasted dressed up as an Indian Chief would be very disturbing to a Native American.

why would anyone take that personal unless they have an obsessive compulsive disorder ?

a team needs to change their name because of dumb drunk people dressed like Indians ?

most of these people who say they want it changed aren't even sports fans or football fans to begin with and they are women. IE they have no connection or investment in any of this

[ram29jackson]

[ram29jackson]

put mouse over logo to see who owns it etc

Washington Redskins Trademark: 600 Other Companies with Indian Mascots - TIME

[Hog1]

I heard Doc Walker say something today on the issue that made sense....not always the case with Doc!
He said to many non-white people think Jesse or Al speak for the black community because they are frequently the loudest....heard. Per Doc. "They DO NOT speak for me....or most of the black community".
Need to hear from the Indian community at large to get any value from the nonsense being....stirred about. To many non Indian....bogus Do-Gooders involved for any truth to come out.
BUT, would make a great "reality" tv show........
...........Osiyo!

[Counter-Tre]

Problem solved ya big dummies!

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

Problem solved ya big dummies!

Brilliant!

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

What irks me about this is the hyprocisy of a vast majority of the people that want it changed.