2015 Redskins Coaches/Coordinators News

[That Guy]

this seems like a weak hire. i'll wait, but i would have gone with WP.

[JoeRedskin]

It was (probably) Gruden's hire with veto authority by BA. Who knows, maybe this is a "I've had my eye on him for a while now" type hire by Gruden.

It certainly smells funny to me b/c of all the Tampa connections, but who knows. No choice but to see. I have been firmly in Gruden's corner. Hopefully, this is his hire. If Barry pans out and we see some baseline improvement, then I am okay with that (Just by the eyeball test, I think the talent here is better than the talent he had in Detroit. Not by much, but still better).

On the other hand, if the D doesn't show some improvement, then sweep clean in 2016 and turn the keys of the franchise over to Scot McC.

Remember, in SF, McC was hired by Mike Nolan but then McC won the power struggle and fired Nolan the next year. If history has to repeat itself to get a winner around here, so be it.

[skinsy]

I don't like this hire one bit. Lets be honest guys, our coordinators are very sub par. I don't care what talent you have, 0-16 in Detroit is unacceptable and is partly to blame on Barry. This is a downgrade from Haslett, but maybe a fresh voice can help. Our offensive coordinator, Sean Mcvay, is a 28 year old with some UFL experience, and very little NFL experience (except for the Redskin mandatory Tampa experience). I know Jay is calling the plays, but we need more proven coordinators.

Very good hires at GM and offensive line coach, though, so there is a silver lining...

[Counter-Tre]

What was wrong with the DC from the Cardinals?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

What was wrong with the DC from the Cardinals?

Pendergast was the DC for the Cards a couple of seasons ago. I think he was out of football in 2014 and was coaching at the college level before that.

[redskins5044]

1. Vic probably didn't want to come here..same as Schwartz who people keep mentioning.
2. We have complained for years about hiring guys based on past performance. (Wade, Vic, Mangini would have been one of those.)
3. Bottom line Jays job on the line, if we win 4 to 5 games whole staff will be gone. If I was him I would have gone with Wade who has a track record of quick turnarounds on D.
4. Joe Barry seems likes a good old boy hire but I am willing to give him a chance.

[htownskinfan]

Well that sucks but at least its not Morris,its another team's Morris

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Well that sucks but at least its not Morris,its another team's Morris

Not really. Barry is given credit by the local media for turning in a really good season and getting the most of San Diego's LB corp despite having to use a lot of back ups and lesser talent.

RM is a guy who has been around the block, been a DC, a HC and a position coach for many years with marginal success at each stop.

Then again, that may just be the Kool-Aid (weak as it is at this point) speaking.

Before I throw my tantrum, I want to see what happens to Morris. I believe it is time for him to move on. Otherwise, his influence will far outweigh his significance and both Barry & Gruden will need to be looking over their shoulder because RM is a BA bud and potential replacement for both/either.

Plus, he has a GREAT personality.

[Schneed10]

OK so Gruden knows him, which steers me in the direction that this was Jay's hire. Fine, that's the way it should be.

But I really get sick and f'n tired of the 'hiring guys you know' concept. If all I did was hire people I went to school with or worked with in the past I'd be closing myself off to so many candidates. It's a losing mentality.

Trust doesn't have to come from a prior working relationship, trust can also come from mutually aligned goals. Stupid decision.

Still very unimpressed with Jay Gruden.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

OK so Gruden knows him, which steers me in the direction that this was Jay's hire. Fine, that's the way it should be.

But I really get sick and f'n tired of the 'hiring guys you know' concept. If all I did was hire people I went to school with or worked with in the past I'd be closing myself off to so many candidates. It's a losing mentality.

Trust doesn't have to come from a prior working relationship, trust can also come from mutually aligned goals. Stupid decision.

Still very unimpressed with Jay Gruden.

Outstanding choice of words.

[redskinsfan1980]

What a piss poor hire! We had Wade Phillips, a proven DC, available. We decided to hire a proven loser.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redskinsfan1980

What a piss poor hire! We had Wade Phillips, a proven DC, available. We decided to hire a proven loser.

No matter what has been said, I'm not convinced that Wade genuinely was interested

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No matter what has been said, I'm not convinced that Wade genuinely was interested

So Vic, Wade and maybe others may have been generally not interested in this job, how much is that based on the fact we might have a lame duck coach?

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So Vic, Wade and maybe others may have been generally not interested in this job, how much is that based on the fact we might have a lame duck coach?

Or shit talent. You can't coach what's not there. Jay is certainly on the hot seat, but we're at the beginning of a long rebuilding process. Why sign on here now? Good DCs are in demand.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Or shit talent. You can't coach what's not there. Jay is certainly on the hot seat, but we're at the beginning of a long rebuilding process. Why sign on here now? Good DCs are in demand.

I agree, Fangio made the smart choice for his career in going to Chicago.

Meanwhile, Washington was Barry's only defensive coordinator option so of course he jumped at the chance.