Ugly week 1 again... Post game thread.

[btfoom]

Originally Posted by MTK

Do you think Stafford is the best QB right now? It's all about timing when you hit the market, not if you're the best or not. One game doesn't decide your value.

For me, it isn't one game. It is now a consistent pattern over his entire time here. The team is a horrific 2-11 with him as QB vs winning teams. That's not a game, it is a trend.

Sure, he can light it up vs lesser teams, but when he NEEDS to win and is under pressure, he folds up and makes bone-headed plays. Last season, first Dallas game, he threw almost the EXACT same interception as vs Philly (he also threw that INT vs Ravens and Giants).

My concern with paying him is that it affects the Cap and the players we can/can't hold.

[over the mountain]

Re lack of running game, 1st question to Gruden from his presser yesterday asked why only 13 runs, did the gameplan get away from him a little bit.

Gruden - "Couple other runs called that we threw quick passes on, we'll get that cleaned up a little bit .."

Jay Gruden's press conference at Redskins Park | WJLA

Ive heard this from Gruden before, run call gets changed to a quick pass. I can only assume that Cousins gets discretion to change a run to a pass play based on the pre snap coverage he sees.

[rocnrik]

NEVER EVER should we have let BOTH Starting WR's go at same time..BAD BAD Move. one or the other but not both in same off season. If Cousins has a average year let him test the open market ..nobody will pay him top money! I really like what we have done on defense but why in the world did we go backwards on the offense?? Its the same old crap with this team..has anybody done the math of what we could have kept at least one of those Wideouts vs what we had to pay Pryor? We have what looks to me as a project in Doctson..Reed stays hurt, what was a strength in the Oline now looks shaky. Its a house of cards waiting to fall..I can't believe folks would think this team could win 10 games. we may very well go 0-4 and then the house starts to crumble..I hope not but Thats what i believe will happen.

[WillH]

I think Cousins and the whole Offense struggling all season is a real possibility, but I find it much more likely that they get their s together after a slow start and play to the level that they did last year. The Oline is playing uncharacteristicly bad, and Cousins was off throwing to everyone and he and Crowder and Reed will get on the same page again quickly. Pryor is less likely I suppose, but I think the chances are he improves after some time with Cousins. If we go 0-4 I'll start to buy that losing Garçon and Jackson was the difference of being a good offense or not. It certainly would be surprising to me if their contributions were greater than that of the oline and Cousins last year. Cousins did spread the ball out well, and won some games by shear will. The running game is unlikely to improve though, but I'd like to see Perine handed the ball on that 2nd and 6 in the Redzone before the INT, he scored a lot in that distance. That alone would go a long way toward fixing our biggest problem on Offense. Anyways, Cousins will most probably have similar stats to the past couple of years and play his way back into the playoff race, but this time around if he can't sustain it when the season is on the line, then yeah, let him test the market, but he's likely to get paid somewhere. But until then, I'm going to try to enjoy the ride. I think it is pretty reasonable to expect the new receivers and Cousins to struggle at first as they get used to each other, and hopefully the Offense picks up where it left off last year, the D continues to improve, and Cousins finally gets over whatever is holding him back.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Next time he throws for 300 yards and 3 TDs I'll definitely be sure to rev up the show him the money train lol

If you looked closely enough at Stafford there were plenty of reasons to justify not paying him too, but in the end if you have a good QB you have to pay him, there's this fallacy that only the top few guys should get paid, it just doesn't work that way anymore

You're right about being more loud during losses. For me, its because I expect to win, so I'm not as excited about winning as I am pissed about losing. Why as a Skins fan I expect to win? Now that's a great question lol.

My gf hates that I like football more than her, so she said I have to end this with...sports are stupid, I'm out.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

NEVER EVER should we have let BOTH Starting WR's go at same time..BAD BAD Move.

I strongly agree with you on this point.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

NEVER EVER should we have let BOTH Starting WR's go at same time..BAD BAD Move. one or the other but not both in same off season. If Cousins has a average year let him test the open market ..nobody will pay him top money! I really like what we have done on defense but why in the world did we go backwards on the offense?? Its the same old crap with this team..has anybody done the math of what we could have kept at least one of those Wideouts vs what we had to pay Pryor? We have what looks to me as a project in Doctson..Reed stays hurt, what was a strength in the Oline now looks shaky. Its a house of cards waiting to fall..I can't believe folks would think this team could win 10 games. we may very well go 0-4 and then the house starts to crumble..I hope not but Thats what i believe will happen.

Distinct possibility. I was looking at the schedule again last night, and looking at how we played vs the Eagles, i find it hard to think we could win much more beyond 3 games, and i guess that's now not even a given. Hope we find a way to get it together...

[insane4theskinsi]

game should not have came down to that fumble.

[insane4theskinsi]

this game has blowout all over it.mcvay beating his mentor,donald comins get scalped. the sking back,i think

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by insane4theskinsi

this game has blowout all over it.mcvay beating his mentor,donald comins get scalped. the sking back,i think

If Donald plays the entire game (some think he won't), very possible Cousins is sacked 3 or more times, it could be very ugly.

[mooby]

Welcome back Snake. I for one don't really see this as a 3-13 team but you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

[MTK]

Vultures are out in full force

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by MTK

Vultures are out in full force

For way to long I have defended this team..I argued how great they were going to be..I took the positive approach..Predicted great things..no longer the case.took off my rose colored glasses and I now see it for what it is .

[mooby]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

For way to long I have defended this team..I argued how great they were going to be..I took the positive approach..Predicted great things..no longer the case.took off my rose colored glasses and I now see it for what it is .

Why does this team either have to be great or garbage? Average is a thing too. Besides, 10 weeks from now you aren't going to remember how we played in week 1 anyways. Stay medium bud. Things are never as great as they seem and they're never as bad as they seem.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

Why does this team either have to be great or garbage? Average is a thing too. Besides, 10 weeks from now you aren't going to remember how we played in week 1 anyways. Stay medium bud. Things are never as great as they seem and they're never as bad as they seem.

Totally agree! I just order my "We are #15!" t-shirt. I wear it with pride.

Thinking about getting a UA Redskin's t-shirt that says "WE WILL TRY TO DEFEND OUR HOUSE!"