All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix)

memphisskin · 10-05-2005, 05:38 PM

LaVar is a very good football player. Maybe because he possesses a rare blend of size, speed and power he is "overhyped" by the media. But he's a playmaker too, something that our defense sorely needs. Yes, we are playing great defensively but the areas in which everyone seems to agree we need to improve on (forcing turnovers and getting pressure on the qb) are LaVar's strengths. I'm not sure why he's not playing right now, obviously the coaching staff knows something that we don't know.

As for "football instinks" let's just say LaVar has plenty. He makes game changing plays, which we may have forgotten since he's yet to really play in GWilliams defense. He's a weapon, right now one we have in reserve, and I sure hope he's making a big impact on opposing defenses sooner rather than later.

mooby · 10-05-2005, 05:53 PM

Man! this is really starting to upset me. he's better than warrick holdman, cuz holdman's been in the league longer and has yet to to go a single pro bowl. what the hell has warrick done that makes him deserve to be a starter? is gibbs keeping him out cuz he thinks he freelances? what the hell, our defense has a bigger turnover potential with lavar in there. i can only hope at this point that lavar studies like hell to learn the playbook and his place.

railcon56 · 10-05-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

He is a better than average LB, and better that all of the ones we have on our roster(excluding Marcus Washington)

Marcus Washington is good but Lavar would eat him alive for breakfast.... hell he wouldnt even need salt and pepper!!!!!!!

That Guy · 10-06-2005, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

Marcus Washington is good but Lavar would eat him alive for breakfast.... hell he wouldnt even need salt and pepper!!!!!!!

too bad he can't get on the field to prove it :P

offiss · 10-06-2005, 05:50 AM

I find it funny that when Lavar can't get on the field after 4 years as a starter, and 4 years to prove what he can do, so many come out and say he's our best LB and on and on, yet Ramsey get's yanked after 19 minutes and so many say if Ramsey was any good he would be playing, they put their trust in Gibbs and say he know's what he's doing. How about putting some trust in Williams, who has out performed Gibbs on his side of the ball 10 times over, but I guess because he's not playing Lavar he hasen't a clue what he's doing? Perhaps we should consult some experts on player development on the defensive side of the ball, Williams could sure use the help, he only finished 3rd over all last season, with no D-line, and a defense that spent 2/3rd's of every game on the field, perhaps the best defensive mind in the game or close to it know's Lavar oh to well.

MTK · 10-06-2005, 09:13 AM

I agree offiss, if we should have learned anything by now, it's to have some trust in the decision making of this staff.

They've proven us wrong more often than not.

That Guy · 10-06-2005, 09:13 AM

the difference, offiss, is that ramsey and brunell are both average, and LA is actually good.

#56fanatic · 10-06-2005, 09:55 AM

Sounds like in todays Washington post LA is getting some reps w/ the starters. The players on defense are starting to come to is aid also. Marcus, and lemar marshall both believe he should be on the field. And they are also using the term I am hearing the most our here and thats "PLAYMAKER". Sooner or later he will see the field, we all just better hope he's been mentally preparing for what he has to do on the field. Hey, why doesn't everyone in the stands start yelling L-A-V-A-R like we did with Ramsey last year, maybe that will work?!

EternalEnigma21 · 10-06-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Sounds like in todays Washington post LA is getting some reps w/ the starters. The players on defense are starting to come to is aid also. Marcus, and lemar marshall both believe he should be on the field. And they are also using the term I am hearing the most our here and thats "PLAYMAKER". Sooner or later he will see the field, we all just better hope he's been mentally preparing for what he has to do on the field. Hey, why doesn't everyone in the stands start yelling L-A-V-A-R like we did with Ramsey last year, maybe that will work?!

where did you read that? I did see Washington on Total Access talking about how he'll be out there pretty soon, and it was more of a knee thing (??) than anything, but I looked all over the post and didnt see anything like what you just said.

EternalEnigma21 · 10-06-2005, 09:34 PM

I thought this was promising
http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=11023

skins052bgr8 · 10-07-2005, 09:29 AM

How many other starters on D play special teams and are all around team players? I know I see Sean Taylor on Special Teams, does Holdman play Special Teams, I think I have seen Walt Harris out as well. It is not a slam in the face of Arrington, but like we said doing what is best for the team and he may need to jump in and play special teams and knock someones head off running full speed that is dangerous to think about LA hitting a little kick off returner wide open. Him and Gibbs having a long talk after practice shows they are both trying to talk. I would think it would be a motivational type Lavar we need you to step up and prove to this coaching staff that you deserve to be in, I know you have talent, but it is up to you to show in practice that you are the outright starter.

mheisig · 10-07-2005, 10:47 AM

Alright, since everyone else has, I thought I'd add my .02. Just for giggles I dug up some stats and compared LA to a few of the more famous and hyped linebackers in the league over their first four years of play.

First 4 Years:

Now, is LA the best LB in the league? Certainly not. Is he overhyped? Who the hell knows or really cares. His stats aren't phenominal over his first four years, but they ARE good and better than average.

I think claiming that LA is of no use, should be traded and has no football "instinks" (whatever the hell that is) is a gross overstatement.

LA is an above average LB with alot to contribute to any team, and a stand-up, nice guy to boot.

Bottom line, G. Williams knows what he's doing and I trust him. The whole Brunell-Ramsey thing should have taught all of us here in Internet-Football land to maybe have a little faith in the guys getting paid millions to make these decisions.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-07-2005, 11:00 AM

He doesn't make a lot of tackles though based on those stats. I think that Williams will put him in a position to make the play provided he can be disciplined enough.

MTK · 10-07-2005, 11:04 AM

'instinks'

LOL

memphisskin · 10-07-2005, 01:26 PM

After watching the Gregg Williams interview on Redskins.com (must see tv) I have no doubt that LaVar will play more as the season progresses. GW says that turnovers come in bunches and thanks to mheisig's stats we have stats to back up the claim that Lavar is a playmaker.

LaVar will make an impact soon enough, he's just too good of a football player. The cream always rises to the top.

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10-05-2005, 05:38 PM	#151
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) LaVar is a very good football player. Maybe because he possesses a rare blend of size, speed and power he is "overhyped" by the media. But he's a playmaker too, something that our defense sorely needs. Yes, we are playing great defensively but the areas in which everyone seems to agree we need to improve on (forcing turnovers and getting pressure on the qb) are LaVar's strengths. I'm not sure why he's not playing right now, obviously the coaching staff knows something that we don't know. As for "football instinks" let's just say LaVar has plenty. He makes game changing plays, which we may have forgotten since he's yet to really play in GWilliams defense. He's a weapon, right now one we have in reserve, and I sure hope he's making a big impact on opposing defenses sooner rather than later.

10-05-2005, 05:53 PM	#152
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) Man! this is really starting to upset me. he's better than warrick holdman, cuz holdman's been in the league longer and has yet to to go a single pro bowl. what the hell has warrick done that makes him deserve to be a starter? is gibbs keeping him out cuz he thinks he freelances? what the hell, our defense has a bigger turnover potential with lavar in there. i can only hope at this point that lavar studies like hell to learn the playbook and his place. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

10-06-2005, 05:50 AM	#155
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) I find it funny that when Lavar can't get on the field after 4 years as a starter, and 4 years to prove what he can do, so many come out and say he's our best LB and on and on, yet Ramsey get's yanked after 19 minutes and so many say if Ramsey was any good he would be playing, they put their trust in Gibbs and say he know's what he's doing. How about putting some trust in Williams, who has out performed Gibbs on his side of the ball 10 times over, but I guess because he's not playing Lavar he hasen't a clue what he's doing? Perhaps we should consult some experts on player development on the defensive side of the ball, Williams could sure use the help, he only finished 3rd over all last season, with no D-line, and a defense that spent 2/3rd's of every game on the field, perhaps the best defensive mind in the game or close to it know's Lavar oh to well.

10-06-2005, 09:13 AM	#156
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) I agree offiss, if we should have learned anything by now, it's to have some trust in the decision making of this staff. They've proven us wrong more often than not. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-06-2005, 09:13 AM	#157
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) the difference, offiss, is that ramsey and brunell are both average, and LA is actually good.

10-06-2005, 09:55 AM	#158
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) Sounds like in todays Washington post LA is getting some reps w/ the starters. The players on defense are starting to come to is aid also. Marcus, and lemar marshall both believe he should be on the field. And they are also using the term I am hearing the most our here and thats "PLAYMAKER". Sooner or later he will see the field, we all just better hope he's been mentally preparing for what he has to do on the field. Hey, why doesn't everyone in the stands start yelling L-A-V-A-R like we did with Ramsey last year, maybe that will work?!

10-06-2005, 09:34 PM	#160
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) I thought this was promising http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=11023

10-07-2005, 09:29 AM	#161
skins052bgr8 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Richmond, Va. Age: 49 Posts: 288	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) How many other starters on D play special teams and are all around team players? I know I see Sean Taylor on Special Teams, does Holdman play Special Teams, I think I have seen Walt Harris out as well. It is not a slam in the face of Arrington, but like we said doing what is best for the team and he may need to jump in and play special teams and knock someones head off running full speed that is dangerous to think about LA hitting a little kick off returner wide open. Him and Gibbs having a long talk after practice shows they are both trying to talk. I would think it would be a motivational type Lavar we need you to step up and prove to this coaching staff that you deserve to be in, I know you have talent, but it is up to you to show in practice that you are the outright starter.

10-07-2005, 10:47 AM	#162
mheisig The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Southeast Age: 41 Posts: 2,119	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) Alright, since everyone else has, I thought I'd add my .02. Just for giggles I dug up some stats and compared LA to a few of the more famous and hyped linebackers in the league over their first four years of play. First 4 Years: Now, is LA the best LB in the league? Certainly not. Is he overhyped? Who the hell knows or really cares. His stats aren't phenominal over his first four years, but they ARE good and better than average. I think claiming that LA is of no use, should be traded and has no football "instinks" (whatever the hell that is) is a gross overstatement. LA is an above average LB with alot to contribute to any team, and a stand-up, nice guy to boot. Bottom line, G. Williams knows what he's doing and I trust him. The whole Brunell-Ramsey thing should have taught all of us here in Internet-Football land to maybe have a little faith in the guys getting paid millions to make these decisions.

10-07-2005, 11:00 AM	#163
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) He doesn't make a lot of tackles though based on those stats. I think that Williams will put him in a position to make the play provided he can be disciplined enough. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-07-2005, 11:04 AM	#164
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) 'instinks' LOL __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-07-2005, 01:26 PM	#165
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix) After watching the Gregg Williams interview on Redskins.com (must see tv) I have no doubt that LaVar will play more as the season progresses. GW says that turnovers come in bunches and thanks to mheisig's stats we have stats to back up the claim that Lavar is a playmaker. LaVar will make an impact soon enough, he's just too good of a football player. The cream always rises to the top.

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