Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

But damn, Brunell just looked awful. I mean when Dallas blitzes 8 guys, SOMEONE has to be open...SOMEONE is one on one, there has to be a check route or something. I mean he missed open recivers, he taking too long in the pocket, he's playing scared, he would throw the ball too quickly somtimes. Overall he just dosent look comfrotable at all; and really looks like he's hurt somewhere in there.

On a couple of occasions last night, Dallas would blitz and Brunell would throw an accurate albiet soft pass in a spot where only his guy can get it. All those passes were dropped. I remember vividly one with Moss, and one with Randle El. Brunell is doing a lot of what I expect from a veteran QB. In 2 losses, he's only been picked off once. He completed 60% against the Vikings, so I don't know what the big deal is there. Chalk up a bad game vs. Dallas, I guess, even though that was more a product of the entire team getting destroyed than anything. Brunell is giving us no more than we expected, but let's face it, to beat Dallas without Portis, Brunell was going to have to have a really good day. I'm not going to hold it against him that he didn't, setbacks are part of the game.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Never said that Matt. I said that it seemed like WRs were open but Brunnell either could not or would not make the throw. I never said that a QB change was all the offense needed, but it would certainly be a good start. At least if we had a QB that could make the throw, it would give the coaching staff some options in the play calling. Im calling for a QB change and let the pieces fall where they may. Like I said, Id rather be 4-12 with Campbell than 8-8 with Brunnell.

You've changed your tune a bit, your initial wording was a bit stronger.

I have TiVo, so I really break down the plays. Did anyone else notice that we had WRs open, but Brunnell either could not or would not make the throw?

Now you say it seemed like WRs were open, which I can buy.

[VTSkins897]

sometimes they seemed open sure. but you're an idiot if you think that just because a team blitzes or there's pressure on the QB that you can't complete a pass.

there are adjustments to be made and i don't think brunell has the ability to make quick, strong throws based on what i've seen. the game still requires that someone step up and make some plays and that has to start with the QB, especially until CP gets back.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

John Madden says Brunell is the problem.

Doc Walker says Brunell is the problem.

I just do not understand why Gibbs has chosen Brunell to carry the flag. I was embarrassed for Brunell last night. He looked worse than he did in '04.

I agree 100 percent. Let's hope Gibbs' mind open enough not to let blind faith in No. 8 get in the way. If Brunell starts next week, we lose to the lousy Texans.

[724Skinsfan]

I quickly voted "Yes" on this one. I was a supporter of Brunell's without wavering until the 3rd quarter last night. He has absolutely no clue what Saunders is trying to do. Looking at his face as he walks off the field its' like he's saying, "Man, I knew that play wasn't going to work". I don't think he knows what he's doing. He is a scrambling, bootleg QB that reacts to the Defense in order to make a play. The total opposite of Saunders (and Gibbs) timing-based offense.

Campbell could easily have thrown for 45 yards this game, anyone, and I mean anyone, could have.

Absolutely terrible performance for a 36 year old QB. I would not even have expected Heath Shuler or Cary Conklin to play this bad.

Right now, I have zero confidence in Brunell. I had this feeling two years ago and he pulled through but I'm done with that.

[celts32]

I have never gotten in on the MB bashing on this site before and I usually have supported him...but last night was the final straw for me. I am done...no more MB. The object of the NFL is to win the Super Bowl and he can't do that. It's time for Campbell...I won't root for the injury but I won't shed a tear if it happens either.

[BDBohnzie]

While watching the game last night, Brunell looks plain awful. He looks like a deer in the headlights, afraid to make a mistake, and afraid to go downfield. However, part of it has to be the playcalling. There were several plays before the 4th quarter where all Brunell had to do was step up in the pocket to throw, and held onto the ball way too long.

The OLine got beat by a very fast DLine and LBs, who were blitzing at will. Blocking schemes, when they worked, were ineffective because Brunell can't get the ball downfield.

However...neither Collins or Campbell are the answer. And the coaching staff knows this. Campbell needs more time learning the system, and Collins is no better than Brunell. A little confidence goes a long way, and if it can't be built facing the Texans, you can pretty much pack it up.

[dmek25]

how would everyone feel if the skins announced Todd Collins as the starter? i think that the would be the alternative

[VTSkins897]

and all last year we thought we didn't have enough bullets but it's seeming more and more that we need a new gun.

oooh i like that.

[ChounsMan]

I fully agree to bench Brunell. He clearly will never get any better. He looked lost & without confidence. You could see it in Santana's face when he lined up in the 4thQ that he was done running routes for Brunell.

My reasons for benching Brunell are simple.
1. He never really settled in the pocket & looked deep
2. His rollouts were more like scrambles
3. His arm is weaker then last season
4. Lastly, the D knew that he was uncomfortable & exploited it after the 1stQ
5. Okay, one more reason, Campbell is younger, stronger, faster, & taller to see the entire field & move his feel upfield without cause for any major concern of injury unlike Brunell & his almost 40 body.

Campbell is the future & the future starts in Week 3!!!

The kid needs to learn & Houston is the perfect setting for Campbells debut. Houston will not pressure Campbell enough for him to make any major mistake & the O-line needs a confidence booster in pass protection, like <<HELLO>> block somebody already!

Thank you for letting me speak my mind

[cowboykiller89]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Really?

So Samuels getting beat around the corner is due to MB?

Jansen flinching on false starts is due to MB?

I'm not letting MB off the hook completely, but there were several occassions last night where it was an absolute jail break on the pass rush.

There was a jail break all day on Eli Manning too, especially on that last blitz the Eagles threw at him before he got the ball to Plaxico. Did he lose his composure? Don't think so! Needless to say, you know what the end result was in that game! Mark Brunell is done! And as long as he continues to start, we will continue to lose! (Exception: Houston Texans) But if we lose that game too then everything we have been saying about Mark Brunell will have been validated.

[Hog1]

I.........personally.........would have a FREEKIN' STROKE

[VTSkins897]

the worst thing is i like brunell. it sucks when players you like just seemingly don't have it anymore.

and people have been mentioning that AA sucks.

uhh... duhhh we knew he was a waste since he was signed. clark was clearly the better choice (factoring in salary). i'd definitely take someone like ty law and keep RC.

that's the last i'll say of that.

[12thMan]

Hey, Mods can we merge the Brunell threads?

I'm getting tired of pissing in two pots.

[dmek25]

do you 2 realize how easy it is to watch film and say so and so should do this, or so and so was open? the speed of the nfl is so fast, split second decisions have to made, right or wrong. my beef with brunell is exactly that, making piss poor reads. on the interception, roy williams was brunells key, and he makes that throw, he cannot have all that wind under it. cooley was covered, but any good receiver learns to make a play, look at plaxico play at the end of the giants game