Can We Bench Brunell Now

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-16-2006, 05:06 PM

I must say that it is surprising that Brunell appears to be looking to Moss and forcing things his way. As a smart veteran, I would expect him to be able to look at multiple receivers for the open guy.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-16-2006, 05:40 PM

The problem GTripp is that, outside of the Texans and Jacksonville games, our offense (including Brunell) has looked average to horrible. Look at our team stats, Brunell's stats, etc.

GTripp0012 · 10-16-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

The problem GTripp is that, outside of the Texans and Jacksonville games, our offense (including Brunell) has looked average to horrible. Look at our team stats, Brunell's stats, etc.

I think this is the best possible counterpoint against my arguement. Inconsistency is a problem. But I pretty much scratch the Dallas game due to a lack of Portis. Brunell was better than average vs the Giants and pretty good against the Vikings. His stats weren't so hot this week, but I believe he did what he needed to do to have us win. No more, no less.

Inconsistency is a leaguewide issue. It's the nature of the league, and the nature of our offense. Going with Campbell instead of Brunell isn't going to solve ANY problems. Brunell has "struggled" through a 0.5 INT/Game season so far. I can't imagine Campbell would be anywhere near that low. QB rating (shitty stat, IMO) aside, 4/6 of Mark's games look pretty good to me on paper, and the other two I think are subpar performances, but once in which he avoided the game-changing mistake.

If you can keep your QB between great and average week in and week out, I think inconsistency is acceptable.

Fix the defense. That's not even inconsistent, that's just bad.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-16-2006, 05:50 PM

Brunell had a QB rating of 68 and threw for 109 yards against the G-men. I would hardly call that "better than average."

GTripp0012 · 10-16-2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Brunell had a QB rating of 68 and threw for 109 yards against the G-men. I would hardly call that "better than average."

He was 12/22, and we had the ball in that game for something redick like 20 mins or less. 5.0 Yards Per Attempt is pretty average. 55% completion is below my expectations for Brunell. But the road division game against a team coming off the bye with something to prove...that defense was insane that day. So I guess better than average is just my opinion. But anyway, 12/22 109 and 0 ints is nothing to get all upset over. Just a microchoism of the dominance of the Giants that day. Espicially the 22.

QB Rating is a dumb stat, IMO.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-16-2006, 06:53 PM

The one thing that has to stop right now is comparing Brunell to Manning. There is no compairson. One a elite quarterback and one a average quarterback on his good day.Yes this offense would be in the top five or top three with manning. Manning would spread the ball around to more than one wide reciever [moss] and use all his weapons like lloyd,randle el and cooley. Also wouldnt underthrow open recievers down field all the time.

WillH · 10-16-2006, 07:39 PM

I voted no on this thing. Obviously I cant say I think MB is a great qb, or that I even think he'll pull some crazy shit and get us to the playoffs this year, but as everyone else has been saying the defense is the real problem. Granted we shoulda been able to put up more then 25 against the titans, and MB's interception was stupid and devastating, but I think if we had the defense we had last year and expected to have this year, MB wouldve been able to lead us to at least 5-1 at this point, and was our best chance at making the playoffs this year. we aren't quite outa this yet, and I know its a stretch, but I know everyone here would shutup if he led us to a victory over INDY this week. If he doesn't, the seasons lost, and we have two weeks to prep JC. Give him one more week then pull the plug. Itll give JC another chance to see what not to do as an NFL quarterback. And for all of you saying JC is our only chance at salvaging this year, you're lying to yourself. I cant wait to see him either ( Gibbs = G= God...Jason Campbell = JC = jesus christ....cooincidence?) but lets not jump the gun

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-16-2006, 06:59 PM

Brunell or Manning,mcnabb,brees,delhomme,vick,grossman,farve, kitna,johnson,smith, bulger,hassleback,bledsoe. And the new guy in tampa. Hard to pick Brunell over more than two of these quarterbacks in the NFC

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-16-2006, 07:07 PM

Brunell or brady,pennington,losman,culpepper,harrington,roeth lisberger,palmer,mcnair,bolier/young,rivers,huard,green,plummer,frye,manning,left wich,carr. You would on take brunell over about two or three here so lets be real we have one of the worst qb's in the NFL>

EternalEnigma21 · 10-16-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

Brunell or brady,pennington,losman,culpepper,harrington,roeth lisberger,palmer,mcnair,bolier/young,rivers,huard,green,plummer,frye,manning,left wich,carr. You would on take brunell over about two or three here so lets be real we have one of the worst qb's in the NFL>

culpeper sux worse, but you make an excellent point

JGisLordOfTheRings · 10-16-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

culpeper sux worse, but you make an excellent point

jesus, Culpepper is fucking awful....

it seems that the Dolphins and 'Skins season's are almost coinciding with one another....after last year they were picking Miami to go to the SB, i also think a few people said that about us too.....

give me Brunell in a wheelchair over Culpepper any day of the week.....

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-16-2006, 07:33 PM

Season over all ready lets see what the kid has. Have to see if he can play for next year.

budw38 · 10-16-2006, 07:33 PM

they better get Campbell ready for next year now . Trying to open next year with no game experience at qb would be stupid , not to mention ,,, we might win now with Cambell . I just hope this team doesn't do something stupid in the offseason like ,,, trade , S.Taylor , Portis , Moss AND our first rd pick for J. Plummer

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CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-16-2006, 07:48 PM

Im not saying campbell going to save the season he wont. The defense stinks we all have can see that. That why we have to see if campbell can play, Brunell on his last legs or leg lol. Brunell is not our future and i hate to say it but last year the first half was a fluke. Brunell hasnt been a relaible qb since 2000. 2004 and late last year and this year is the real brunell.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-16-2006, 08:06 PM

I'm just naming all the qb's so were can see where we stand.

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10-16-2006, 05:06 PM	#1
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now I must say that it is surprising that Brunell appears to be looking to Moss and forcing things his way. As a smart veteran, I would expect him to be able to look at multiple receivers for the open guy.

10-16-2006, 05:40 PM	#2
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now The problem GTripp is that, outside of the Texans and Jacksonville games, our offense (including Brunell) has looked average to horrible. Look at our team stats, Brunell's stats, etc.

10-16-2006, 05:50 PM	#4
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now Brunell had a QB rating of 68 and threw for 109 yards against the G-men. I would hardly call that "better than average."

10-16-2006, 06:53 PM	#6
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 58 Posts: 890	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now The one thing that has to stop right now is comparing Brunell to Manning. There is no compairson. One a elite quarterback and one a average quarterback on his good day.Yes this offense would be in the top five or top three with manning. Manning would spread the ball around to more than one wide reciever [moss] and use all his weapons like lloyd,randle el and cooley. Also wouldnt underthrow open recievers down field all the time.

10-16-2006, 07:39 PM	#7
WillH The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,592	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now I voted no on this thing. Obviously I cant say I think MB is a great qb, or that I even think he'll pull some crazy shit and get us to the playoffs this year, but as everyone else has been saying the defense is the real problem. Granted we shoulda been able to put up more then 25 against the titans, and MB's interception was stupid and devastating, but I think if we had the defense we had last year and expected to have this year, MB wouldve been able to lead us to at least 5-1 at this point, and was our best chance at making the playoffs this year. we aren't quite outa this yet, and I know its a stretch, but I know everyone here would shutup if he led us to a victory over INDY this week. If he doesn't, the seasons lost, and we have two weeks to prep JC. Give him one more week then pull the plug. Itll give JC another chance to see what not to do as an NFL quarterback. And for all of you saying JC is our only chance at salvaging this year, you're lying to yourself. I cant wait to see him either ( Gibbs = G= God...Jason Campbell = JC = jesus christ....cooincidence?) but lets not jump the gun

10-16-2006, 06:59 PM	#8
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 58 Posts: 890	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now Brunell or Manning,mcnabb,brees,delhomme,vick,grossman,farve, kitna,johnson,smith, bulger,hassleback,bledsoe. And the new guy in tampa. Hard to pick Brunell over more than two of these quarterbacks in the NFC

10-16-2006, 07:07 PM	#9
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 58 Posts: 890	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now Brunell or brady,pennington,losman,culpepper,harrington,roeth lisberger,palmer,mcnair,bolier/young,rivers,huard,green,plummer,frye,manning,left wich,carr. You would on take brunell over about two or three here so lets be real we have one of the worst qb's in the NFL>

10-16-2006, 07:33 PM	#12
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 58 Posts: 890	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now Season over all ready lets see what the kid has. Have to see if he can play for next year.

10-16-2006, 07:33 PM	#13
budw38 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,706	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now they better get Campbell ready for next year now . Trying to open next year with no game experience at qb would be stupid , not to mention ,,, we might win now with Cambell . I just hope this team doesn't do something stupid in the offseason like ,,, trade , S.Taylor , Portis , Moss AND our first rd pick for J. Plummer .

10-16-2006, 07:48 PM	#14
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 58 Posts: 890	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now Im not saying campbell going to save the season he wont. The defense stinks we all have can see that. That why we have to see if campbell can play, Brunell on his last legs or leg lol. Brunell is not our future and i hate to say it but last year the first half was a fluke. Brunell hasnt been a relaible qb since 2000. 2004 and late last year and this year is the real brunell.

10-16-2006, 08:06 PM	#15
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 58 Posts: 890	Re: Can We Bench Brunell Now I'm just naming all the qb's so were can see where we stand.

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