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Old 09-05-2008, 02:55 PM   #1
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I think you are right on with that one dirty....we need an aggressive attac offense with innovation not a lets run between the tackles and dump it short of the sticks and hope the recievers can make the Ľard..boo to that....boo..
How can this team have an aggressive innovative attack offense with a QB that's not capable of doing that? Heck, even at the end of the game JC couldnt move fast and attack. Zorn's hands are tied by the QB when it comes to playcalling.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:14 PM   #2
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How can this team have an aggressive innovative attack offense with a QB that's not capable of doing that? Heck, even at the end of the game JC couldnt move fast and attack. Zorn's hands are tied by the QB when it comes to playcalling.
JC can move fast, he just doesn't look like he's moving fast. He runs the no huddle pretty well, but for some reason they never went into the no huddle last night.

The guy is athletic enough to make plays on the run, he's just not comfortable in this O yet. For that matter, a no. of other players aren't either. The one guy that had a good game was CP, and the running plays are mainly the same. ARE had a decent game, but was offsides twice.

Zorn himself doesn't look like he's comfortable in his role.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:18 PM   #3
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JC can move fast, he just doesn't look like he's moving fast.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.. .it's a duck.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:58 PM   #4
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Well, for full discolusre, I'm not A JC fan.
But the O-Line has to give him more time.

Time to look over the field.

Time to get the ball off.
If they do and he still can't find the open receiver and then hit them in stride, he's out of the league within two years.

As to "He has a new system:

This is how it is in the modern NFL. Coordinators and coaches (and receivers, centers, etc) come and go regularly.

Pro players adapt to change or they aren't pro player for long.
JC is the qb this year, for good or bad.

Colt-45 won't be ready for two years.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:53 PM   #5
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Coach Zorn lost this game. After scoring at the end of the half, we came out throwing incompletions on first down and running the ball on second and third and (too) long. This was also the case early in the game. I don't care what type of offense this is called you have to play to your players' strengths. Campbell's best throw is the deep fade. Moss' strengths is his deep speed. People ask why Tryon made the team. Why is Thrash on this team!? It would've been beneficial to have Davis active instead. Everybody has a prototype QB (or player) in thier mind that they use to measure against. You don't have to have a Brady or Peyton to win games or the SB.

Eli still sucks!
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:04 PM   #6
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I think I'm just so desperate for a franchise QB. It makes life just so much easier in the NFL. I see plenty of potential in JC, but for him to take a considerable step backwards was hard to watch. He has had enough time and experience in the league and although he has to deal with this new system I just didn't see anything positive in that game. He usually does plenty of good things that he can build on, but it just didn't happen last night. Maybe he just isn't suited for this type of offense, but I really thought this guy was on the road to being a great quarterback. Now I'm just worried that we might have made a mess of him.
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:12 PM   #7
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Yeah he doesn't have what it takes in my book. Auburn was a good team because of the running game not his arm..Mediocre at best
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:28 PM   #8
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I hate to keep saying this, but the offensive line really plays like they're college level players. I have to admit that Campbell made them look worse than they are by holding onto the ball too long. I hope they play better next time. I hate the Cowboys and the Giants, and I really don't want the Redskins to lose two times to both of those teams. If the next game is like this one, then mentally I'm ready for the Redskins to switch to Colt Brennan! Bring back Mix and Richardson!!! On second thought, bring back Reche Caldwell!
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:38 PM   #9
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I didn't really blame the play calling as much as the execution of the plays by the players. Jason Campbell might have gotten a great play from Zorn, but if the quarterback and the receivers are not on the same page, then the end result is going to be disastrous.
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:43 PM   #10
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Anybody have good information on what JC's Wunderlich test score was?

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Anybody have good information on what JC's Wunderlich test score was?

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Here's a good link that shows Wonderlic scores by QBs over the years.
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Anybody have good information on what JC's Wunderlich test score was?

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Stupid metric that we have covered too many times. What did you get on your SATs? I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.
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Old 09-05-2008, 06:55 PM   #13
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Stupid metric that we have covered too many times. What did you get on your SATs? I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.
Wonderlic or SAT scores huh? How was his 2nd grade math scores more like it, cause he still doesn't know feet or yards..
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Wonderlic or SAT scores huh? How was his 2nd grade math scores more like it, cause he still doesn't know feet or yards..
Wow, that was genius.
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Anybody have good information on what JC's Wunderlich test score was?

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Dawg, I don't think the problem is JC's intellect but from what I remember his score wasn't too great.
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