AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.

[The Goat]

Shanny/Allen would have lost enormous street cred trading the best defensive player in football for a 2nd rd pick (let alone an effing 3rd).

...in a sense things haven't changed much that it requires other franchises saving the Skins FO from itself. But at any point it looks as though the relationship w/ Al won't be repaired. If we get lucky a top DT will get seriously injured so we get the kind of value Al is actually worth i.e. a 1st rd pick next year. I could see this if Minn sees one of the Williams go down.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Shanny/Allen would have lost enormous street cred trading the best defensive player in football for a 2nd rd pick (let alone an effing 3rd).

...in a sense things haven't changed much that it requires other franchises saving the Skins FO from itself. But at any point it looks as though the relationship w/ Al won't be repaired. If we get lucky a top DT will get seriously injured so we get the kind of value Al is actually worth i.e. a 1st rd pick next year. I could see this if Minn sees one of the Williams go down.

Or maybe Albert will realize that he likes the new hybrid system and that it's not bad after all and Shanahan and him kiss and make up.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Or maybe Albert will realize that he likes the new hybrid system and that it's not bad after all and Shanahan and him kiss and make up.

Assuming there's really anything to make up about. If anybody should be apologizing right now it should be the media for peddling crappy rumors.

[skins89moss]

Im glad we did not trade AH for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. He forces offenses to game plan for him. I think our D-line will be much better this season than last. Im concerned more about our LineBackers who do not have much experience in the 3-4 defense. We need to focus on another OT and 3-4 line backers in rounds 4-7. I hope we can get a few more picks for JC if not we should just keep JC until another team gets a injury to their QB. JLF is a idiot and I never like him when he would appear on Washington Post Live. He seem always negative to the Redskins organization.

[Dirtbag59]

And also keep in mind that Haynesworth actually played a lot more then people realized. So while some people will see the signing of DL after DL after DL as a sign that they want to move Haynesworth, people should consider the possibility that they want to reduce the number of snaps he plays and thereby maximize his effectiveness per snap.

Defending Albert Haynesworth Yet Again: He’s Playing About 75% of the Snaps | Mr. Irrelevant, a D.C. Sports Blog by the Brothers Mottram

Albert Haynesworth Isn't Loafing -- NFL FanHouse

As we mentioned earlier this week, Haynesworth played more than 70 percent of Washington's defense's snaps in the opener against the Giants, so it's hard to say that he was begging out of playing time. And when he was in there, he gave a good effort. Especially when it comes to pass rushing, it's pretty easy to tell when a player is out of gas and giving no effort. They can just stand at the line, move their feet a little bit and get in a stalemate with the offensive linemen.

I personally feel stupid for ever buying into the Haynesworth trade hype.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

And also keep in mind that Haynesworth actually played a lot more then people realized. So while some people will see the signing of DL after DL after DL as a sign that they want to move Haynesworth, people should consider the possibility that they want to reduce the number of snaps he plays and thereby maximize his effectiveness per snap.

Defending Albert Haynesworth Yet Again: He’s Playing About 75% of the Snaps | Mr. Irrelevant, a D.C. Sports Blog by the Brothers Mottram

Albert Haynesworth Isn't Loafing -- NFL FanHouse



I personally feel stupid for ever buying into the Haynesworth trade hype.

You shouldn't feel stupid. JLC should feel stupid because he is a fraud. You would think that when the NFL Network hires a guy who was a beat reporter for a specific organization, that his reports tied to that organization would have some truth.

JLC is officially Schefter's bitch.

[SirClintonPortis]

JLC got his assed kicked by disinformation and misinformation.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

JLC got his assed kicked by disinformation and misinformation.

what the hell are you talking about? Smoot confirmed that we were deep in negotiations with the Titans - if the ravens had traded with the titans for a TE instead of drafting one, we'd be debating whether we got fair value for Haynesworth now. JLCs report was spot on. Like smoot said, alot of times, these things fall through at the last minute. thats what happened here. whether you are happy or upset that the deal didnt go through is one thing, but i dont get why everyone is acting like JLC just made stuff up. he didnt.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

what the hell are you talking about? Smoot confirmed that we were deep in negotiations with the Titans - if the ravens had traded with the titans for a TE instead of drafting one, we'd be debating whether we got fair value for Haynesworth now. JLCs report was spot on. Like smoot said, alot of times, these things fall through at the last minute. thats what happened here. whether you are happy or upset that the deal didnt go through is one thing, but i dont get why everyone is acting like JLC just made stuff up. he didnt.

"Most likely for a third rounder". That's misinformation right there. They wanted a 2nd or more and wouldn't budge until Tennessee coughed one up, and that was only to start the conversation.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

"Most likely for a third rounder". That's misinformation right there. They wanted a 2nd or more and wouldn't budge until Tennessee coughed one up, and that was only to start the conversation.

most likely for a third because thats all the titans had and evidently their initial offer. we wanted more. the titans tried to get more. it didnt happen . i see nothing in jlcs report to criticize

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

most likely for a third because thats all the titans had and evidently their initial offer. we wanted more. the titans tried to get more. it didnt happen . i see nothing in jlcs report to criticize

He and his sources can still be bashed for being wrong in their expectations and guesstimates.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

most likely for a third because thats all the titans had and evidently their initial offer. we wanted more. the titans tried to get more. it didnt happen . i see nothing in jlcs report to criticize

Well that shocks the living daylights out of me.

You argued through this whole thing that JLC was to be believed over Schefter because Schefter was too tied to MS. Fact is JLC took the base information and spun it as any media hound would. Schefter got better information from a better source (MS probably) and let the details out as best he could. JLCs reporting was self serving, and in fact misleading. Any other way of looking at it is wrong, and mostly from some biased perspective of its own.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

what the hell are you talking about? Smoot confirmed that we were deep in negotiations with the Titans - if the ravens had traded with the titans for a TE instead of drafting one, we'd be debating whether we got fair value for Haynesworth now. JLCs report was spot on. Like smoot said, alot of times, these things fall through at the last minute. thats what happened here. whether you are happy or upset that the deal didnt go through is one thing, but i dont get why everyone is acting like JLC just made stuff up. he didnt.

Actually Smoot said the Titans called us and that the Redskins told them that they weren't going to discuss anything until they could come to the table with a 2nd round pick.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Actually Smoot said the Titans called us and that the Redskins told them that they weren't going to discuss anything until they could come to the table with a 2nd round pick.

thank you for taking the time to read my posts. Furthermore, just because schefter didn't report a bunch of stuff doesn't mean he didn't know about it. It was known that the ravens wanted a te and the titans thought they could take advantage of that which would have put them in better position to trade for al. But we were not actively shopping him the way jlc potrayed it.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

what the hell are you talking about? Smoot confirmed that we were deep in negotiations with the Titans - if the ravens had traded with the titans for a TE instead of drafting one, we'd be debating whether we got fair value for Haynesworth now. JLCs report was spot on. Like smoot said, alot of times, these things fall through at the last minute. thats what happened here. whether you are happy or upset that the deal didnt go through is one thing, but i dont get why everyone is acting like JLC just made stuff up. he didnt.

JLC was wrong as soon as he said Godzilla would be traded for a third. Then he made it even worse by sticking by his story.

He has more "egg" on his face then that 20 year old who was in the bathroom with Ben...