Official Super Bowl Thread

[Ruhskins]

Free agency should start tomorrow, that would end tampering.

[Ruhskins]

And here is a shot of the Patriots locker room...

[Chico23231]

Manningham made the catch and Welker didnt...both were game changers. Those will the be plays i remember most from this game. The Welker non-catch was a flat out drop.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Manningham made the catch and Welker didnt...both were game changers. Those will the be plays i remember most from this game. The Welker non-catch was a flat out drop.

Considering he had to twist his body nearly all the way around because the ball was thrown behind him, I wouldn't put that all on Welker.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Considering he had to twist his body nearly all the way around because the ball was thrown behind him, I wouldn't put that all on Welker.

he didnt need to twist his body all the way around. he measured the ball up, jumped turned and watched the ball come into his hands almost head level. sorry thats a drop and a catch we come to expect from Welker.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

he didnt need to twist his body all the way around. he measured the ball up, jumped turned and watched the ball come into his hands almost head level. sorry thats a drop and a catch we come to expect from Welker.

Some of that's on Tom Brady. He threw a few balls behind receivers tonight. They had some drops but so did the Giants. Manningham had a huge ****up on a deep pass where he could have gotten his feet in bounds but failed to do so. Also dropped another pass that killed a drive. Granted Welker probably should have caught it, but this wasn't a routine catch and Welker had to twist his body to catch that or it wasn't happening.

I know you guys don't want to fault Tom for anything, but the guy isn't infallible.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

he didnt need to twist his body all the way around. he measured the ball up, jumped turned and watched the ball come into his hands almost head level. sorry thats a drop and a catch we come to expect from Welker.

Nah, come on. That's a tough catch and most certainly not a routine one. I'm putting that on Brady for failing to put the ball in a spot where his receiver had the best chance to make a play on it. Brady had multiple throws in the game where he didn't put the ball in the best spot. That was one of them.

[biffle]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Considering he had to twist his body nearly all the way around because the ball was thrown behind him, I wouldn't put that all on Welker.

Agreed.

[mooby]

I think this game signifies the importance of getting a franchise qb. Which is why I don't want to settle for Orton/Tannehill, or whatever pair of 2nd rate qb's is available. I mean when was the last time a team won a Super Bowl without a franchise guy at qb? Baltimore with Trent Dilfer? The NFL today is set up for elite quarterbacks to succeed, not just in the regular season but in the SB. If Luck or RG3 is that guy, than we need to go get him. No more settling for 2nd best.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by mooby

I think this game signifies the importance of getting a franchise qb. Which is why I don't want to settle for Orton/Tannehill, or whatever pair of 2nd rate qb's is available. I mean when was the last time a team won a Super Bowl without a franchise guy at qb? Baltimore with Trent Dilfer? The NFL today is set up for elite quarterbacks to succeed, not just in the regular season but in the SB. If Luck or RG3 is that guy, than we need to go get him. No more settling for 2nd best.

This, This, and more This.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

I think this game signifies the importance of getting a franchise qb. Which is why I don't want to settle for Orton/Tannehill, or whatever pair of 2nd rate qb's is available. I mean when was the last time a team won a Super Bowl without a franchise guy at qb? Baltimore with Trent Dilfer? The NFL today is set up for elite quarterbacks to succeed, not just in the regular season but in the SB. If Luck or RG3 is that guy, than we need to go get him. No more settling for 2nd best.

The Giants didnt dominate this season, but won the games that matter. I know we dont have a lot of talent, but I would like to see some leadership from our coaching staff. Our team play unimpressive at times and did not seem to come through in big game.

We also need a complete team, or at least one where one area picks up where another area doesnt play well. Yes we are in DESPERATE need for a franchise QB, but we also need our coach to figure out how to make the players win the big games, and a solid overall team.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mooby

I think this game signifies the importance of getting a franchise qb. Which is why I don't want to settle for Orton/Tannehill, or whatever pair of 2nd rate qb's is available. I mean when was the last time a team won a Super Bowl without a franchise guy at qb? Baltimore with Trent Dilfer? The NFL today is set up for elite quarterbacks to succeed, not just in the regular season but in the SB. If Luck or RG3 is that guy, than we need to go get him. No more settling for 2nd best.

You mean like we did with Jason Campbell? No wait...Heath Shuler? wait....you mean Patrick Ramsey.


See, that's the thing, you don't know who's going to hit or who's going to miss. If you throw a ton of picks away, your team will continue to be shitty. If you keep your picks and your QB fails, your team will still be very competitive and you could do well. (49ers)

[Bushead]

I feel conflicted. It's hard to think of the Giants as a good team after watching them. But, in the end, they won, and they'll get the ring. Doesn't matter about anything else.

[TheSmurfs22]

Enjoyable game tonight and for my brother-in-law's sake I am glad the Giants won. Patriots looked flat in my opinion, never found that rhythm they usually get into. Kudos to the Giants for their win.

[GTripp0012]

I don't believe in Kyle Orton, but I also wouldn't look at Eli Manning's career up until this year and be all "Pfft, Kyle Orton could never do that." Nor would I look at Ryan Tannehill and say he could never do that.

Right now, having Eli Manning is a pretty significant difference between the Redskins and the Giants. It wasn't always like that; in fact for most of Eli's time as Giant QB, the Redskins enjoyed QB play in the same class.

Going forward, it's tough to see Eli having too many bad games against us, but his last two or three have not been all that great.