Trayvon Martin Case

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Trust me, I am conscience of that. I have only done this in broad daylight when I know other neighbors are around. I purposely speak very loud, keep my distance, make it clear I am unarmed and am as polite as I can be. I also don't follow guys (yes, it's always guys doing this) wearing clothing that could easily conceal a gun. If someone reaches for something, I am jumping behind the nearest parked car.

At the same time, it's my neighborhood. I will not simply go into hiding and hope others will protect us - that's not the man I am nor the man I want my son to grow into.

I agree no doubt, I'm was actually just kidding lol but seriously yeah anything can happen to anyone at anytime. It's a sad case unfortunately someone died and we will probably never know the truth behind it all

[DynamiteRave]

Okay... What's the catch here?

Trayvon Martin Case: Exclusive Surveillance Video of George Zimmerman - ABC News

[skinsfaninok]

Trayvon Martin Case: Exclusive Surveillance Video of George Zimmerman - ABC News

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Trayvon Martin Case: Exclusive Surveillance Video of George Zimmerman - ABC News

Its tough to make out the face even though it doesnt look hurt, but because of a pretty recent hair cut the back of the head is pretty clear, no injury what so ever.

You would expect to see some type of first aid administered to the head from the description of his supposed wounds.

Im just not buying what this guy is selling, think he's lying and this supposed attack wasnt much of anything but trying to CYA tall tale after-the-fact

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Its tough to make out the face even though it doesnt look hurt, but because of a pretty recent hair cut the back of the head is pretty clear, no injury what so ever.

You would expect to see some type of first aid administered to the head from the description of his supposed wounds.

Im just not buying what this guy is selling, think he's lying and this supposed attack wasnt much of anything but trying to CYA tall tale after-the-fact

Is the homeowner who witnessed Martin beating Zimmerman also lying?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Is the homeowner who witnessed Martin beating Zimmerman also lying?

Could've mixed the 2 up? How far was the homeowner from the incident? Was it practically on their doorstep or were they like 5 or 6 houses down? Could make a significant difference and mistaken identity. Around 7pm and raining, so it was probably somewhat dark.

Possibly? I'm sure odder witness mistakes have happened...

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Is the homeowner who witnessed Martin beating Zimmerman also lying?

In your line of work, whats more important physical evidence vs. witness statement? I think the physical evidence. Lets be honest, that video evidence directly after the fight shows no signs of a fight. No bruising or blood to the face, back of the head, no ripped clothing, doesnt look physically exhasted, etc. A broken nose or gash to the back of the head should be noticable.

Im calling bullsh*t on Zimmy. Going to ground and rolling around is alot different from some a child on top of a grown medium to large man physically beating him. Alot different.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

In your line of work, whats more important physical evidence vs. witness statement? I think the physical evidence. Lets be honest, that video evidence directly after the fight shows no signs of a fight. No bruising or blood to the face, back of the head, no ripped clothing, doesnt look physically exhasted, etc. A broken nose or gash to the back of the head should be noticable.

Im calling bullsh*t on Zimmy. Going to ground and rolling around is alot different from some a child on top of a grown medium to large man physically beating him. Alot different.

Depends on a lot of factors. How reliable is the physical evidence, how reliable is the witness statement. I have more than once seen juries side with the eyewitness account of something rather than video evidence.

It's clear you have made up your mind in this matter and, barring incontrovertable evidence that Martin was laying in wait and attacking Zimmerman from behind, you won't even consider the possibility that Martin may have been the aggressor or the person who escalated the confrontation into a physical altercation. I get it - Martin is a "child", Zimmerman is a coward with a gun so he MUST be guilty of murder. Couldn't happen any other way.

[skinsfaninok]

beat me rave and it seems pretty odd that he has nothing wrong w him

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

beat me rave and it seems pretty odd that he has nothing wrong w him

He seems pretty... Not disheveled... Well, for a guy that allegedly just got beat down by a 17 year old.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

He seems pretty... Not disheveled... Well, for a guy that allegedly just got beat down by a 17 year old.

sorry but this dudes story isn't really believable IMO, and he looks like he's in pretty damn good shape to me.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

sorry but this dudes story isn't really believable IMO, and he looks like he's in pretty damn good shape to me.

5 years since the mug shot that's been circulating. Look's like the dude's been hitting the gym.

I'm not going to say Zimmerman over powered Martin, but I bet considering Zimmerman isn't the pudgy, out of shape dude in the circulating picture, and Martin was already in shape, I can only imagine it had to have been a hell of a fight. (If that actually happened)

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

5 years since the mug shot that's been circulating. Look's like the dude's been hitting the gym.

I'm not going to say Zimmerman over powered Martin, but I bet considering Zimmerman isn't the pudgy, out of shape dude in the circulating picture, and Martin was already in shape, I can only imagine it had to have been a hell of a fight. (If that actually happened)

So where were all the people that live in this neighborhood while this so called Fight was going down? Where I grew up fights were a common thing and I can tell u now that people were always outside while it was going down.

[DynamiteRave]

I think Zimmerman is either innocent and it was self defense or one hell of a sociopath and a liar (since those already go hand in hand) and has a good portion of America fooled.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I think Zimmerman is either innocent and it was self defense or one hell of a sociopath and a liar (since those already go hand in hand) and has a good portion of America fooled.

Fair assessment in my opinion. And yeah, that video shows a pretty "not beaten" guy to me. His lawyer said his nose was broken, but it doesn't look like it to me. No bruising or swelling that would be associated with that kind of injury.

At the same time, one eye witness - the only one seeing any part of the altercation - says Martin was beating Zimmerman's head into the ground. Conflicting evidence all around. <blech>