Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Just being honest, I've never heard a Denver Broncos fan lament sending Mike down the road, never. Have you? Has anybody here?

Mike is somewhat of an enigma IMO. One of my relatives in Denver is a very successful oil man, and has done lots of hobnobbing w/ Denver "elite." He said Mike was a total ahole and not well respected there. Heard the same from one of the guys in my office that knows Plummer. I've heard a few players and other NFL personalities say Mike is a good coach, but that's about it.

What matters more? That an oil man thinks Shanahan is an ahole, or that people in the NFL think he's a good coach?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What matters more? That an oil man thinks Shanahan is an ahole, or that people in the NFL think he's a good coach?

Neither to me. I shouldn't even have posted that.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Neither to me. I shouldn't even have posted that.

No Goat, that was awesome. Didnt know the oil business was so strong in Colorado.

[JoeRedskin]

I would not equate the loss of Rak with the loss of Carriker. At the same time, Carriker was a much bigger loss than Goat and his DVR credit.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Definitely stay the course with Shanny. For starters our offensive personnel is now tailored to his scheme and as Denver learned it's very hard to switch back. On top of that not many coaches can find Running Backs like they're long snappers. Also they've not only done a great job developing RG3 but Cousins looks to be coming along as well.

Denver realized they made a mistake letting Shanny go, the best COA is to keep him and find a defensive guy that can bring the D back to where it was the past decade.

Denvers best teams they have had in a while were last yeAr and this year. Wasnt too hard for them to adjust the scheme to life after Shanny. Also not sure about any regret comin outta rocky mountain high.
What have you seen in Cousins that makes you believe he is coming along? I saw a perfect spiral to a wide open Moss and two atrocious int's at crunch time.


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[Deivybaby]

We suck and next week our defense will revamp cam newton again giving him the best game he'll get and once.more we will discuss why HAZ ISNT FIRED.

dirtbag btw denver better than ever since 04-05 the D been better too no denver fan misses shanny he held that team.back.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

We suck and next week our defense will revamp cam newton again giving him the best game he'll get and once.more we will discuss why HAZ ISNT FIRED.

dirtbag btw denver better than ever since 04-05 the D been better too no denver fan misses shanny he held that team.back.

It's just wrong to say no fans missed Shanahan. I will say that people trusted Bowlen a lot more than anyone trusted Snyder, and so there was acceptance of his decision. I have family and friends in Colo, having lived and worked in Colo Springs for about 8 years in the late 1990's early 2000's and Shanahan's work on the offense was always respected. Sadly, his failings are about what we see now, an inability to have a strong defense, and consistent DC changes. In the throngs of the Josh McDaniels fiasco there was definitely a questioning of Shanahan's firing, but like anything in football, winning cures fans ills, and they latched on to Tebow, and now Peyton is certainly leading them well.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

It's just wrong to say no fans missed Shanahan. I will say that people trusted Bowlen a lot more than anyone trusted Snyder, and so there was acceptance of his decision. I have family and friends in Colo, having lived and worked in Colo Springs for about 8 years in the late 1990's early 2000's and Shanahan's work on the offense was always respected. Sadly, his failings are about what we see now, an inability to have a strong defense, and consistent DC changes. In the throngs of the Josh McDaniels fiasco there was definitely a questioning of Shanahan's firing, but like anything in football, winning cures fans ills, and they latched on to Tebow, and now Peyton is certainly leading them well.

This is what I've been saying about Mike and his history proves it out. I think he's a good OC. Our o-line is playing better than expected...we have a rookie RB tearing up the league and we're scoring points out the ying yang. But...like Norv imo...being a good OC doesn't always make you a good HC. Why does hls teams always have trouble with becoming good on defense? It's an honest question. It was the same thing in Denver. Why? I read an article...Rich Campbell I think???...that was talking about the zero blitz and the author said to expect to see alot of it because Shanahan likes it. How much input does Mike have on defensive calls and is that why hls defenses are usually not very good and he goes through so many DC's? Do you know if he's more hands on his defenses than other HC's Smoot? I'm really just trying to figure out why this is so often the case with Mike. The Pats and Giants don't ALWAYS have great defenses but often they do. Seems like Mike never does.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

This is what I've been saying about Mike and his history proves it out. I think he's a good OC. Our o-line is playing better than expected...we have a rookie RB tearing up the league and we're scoring points out the ying yang. But...like Norv imo...being a good OC doesn't always make you a good HC. Why does hls teams always have trouble with becoming good on defense? It's an honest question. It was the same thing in Denver. Why? I read an article...Rich Campbell I think???...that was talking about the zero blitz and the author said to expect to see alot of it because Shanahan likes it. How much input does Mike have on defensive calls and is that why hls defenses are usually not very good and he goes through so many DC's? Do you know if he's more hands on his defenses than other HC's Smoot? I'm really just trying to figure out why this is so often the case with Mike. The Pats and Giants don't ALWAYS have great defenses but often they do. Seems like Mike never does.

Check his rankings. I bet you'll be surprised.

Denver Broncos Team Encyclopedia - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Contrary to popular opinion, the Broncos didn't win all because of Elway.

They had a top 10 D 7 times under him.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

We suck and next week our defense will revamp cam newton again giving him the best game he'll get and once.more we will discuss why HAZ ISNT FIRED.

dirtbag btw denver better than ever since 04-05 the D been better too no denver fan misses shanny he held that team.back.

Yep! History proves that this will be the game that puts Cams game back on track. We will be the team to give him back the name "SuperCam". Some of you know what Im talking about. Just watch and see...

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Yep! History proves that this will be the game that puts Cams game back on track. We will be the team to give him back the name "SuperCam". Some of you know what Im talking about. Just watch and see...

Still sad knowing we gave vick his best game ever on mnf. Tougher times in d.c man.

[SKINS73]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Yep! History proves that this will be the game that puts Cams game back on track. We will be the team to give him back the name "SuperCam". Some of you know what Im talking about. Just watch and see...

Sadly I agree. I don't know for sure, but I think every team we've played this year has had a receive go over 100 yards in receptions. That said, I think RG3 has a good chance to put up some impressive numbers of his own.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SKINS73

Sadly I agree. I don't know for sure, but I think every team we've played this year has had a receive go over 100 yards in receptions. That said, I think RG3 has a good chance to put up some impressive numbers of his own.

Its amazing that the excitement of having RG3 cant even spark this team. I just hope the Skins don't lul RG3 to sleep and make him like all the rest that have come here in recent years. This team will put his character to the test for sure.

As much as I love having RG3 in DC, I almost hate it. For his sake.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Yep! History proves that this will be the game that puts Cams game back on track. We will be the team to give him back the name "SuperCam". Some of you know what Im talking about. Just watch and see...

Tada!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I believe he had 5 sacks last year also. I must say I expected a little more from Jenkins this year. Makes me wonder how much damage his injury actually did to him.

Expected alot more fromJenkins. He was supposed to be like a bonus early round pick this year because he never played last yeAr. He might as well still be on the IR. Big disappointment.


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