We won!!!!!!!!!! (Redskins vs. Raiders Post Game Thread)

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

wait until griff explodes , its coming.

Absolutely. He's a ticking bomb in a good way.

[skinsfaninok]

anyone notice PG is on pace for 112 catches? Pretty good.. And that RG3 guy sucks , give me Tannehill all day

[Chico23231]

^look at the real estate to the outside. If he is blocked by Paul, the receiver could have blocked down and sealed the end. Folks that's the difference between a possible td and a 4 yard loss. Fred is our best blocking te, with oline shaky thus far, time to get him back on the field

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

^look at the real estate to the outside. If he is blocked by Paul, the receiver could have blocked down and sealed the end. Folks that's the difference between a possible td and a 4 yard loss. Fred is our best blocking te, with oline shaky thus far, time to get him back on the field

You'd think Fred would be playing lights out this season because of his contract. What gives?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by The Goat

You'd think Fred would be playing lights out this season because of his contract. What gives?

Coaching staff probably fallin in love with Reed playmaking ability. Which is great, you can rotate and have both on the field.

But Reed cant block worth a sh*t. And Paul looks like he's still learning the position going on year two.

Fred been injured but will be available for Dallas. Time to use him or continue to expect plays like that above.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Nah, if he has to take two years off due to a prison sentence and a year long suspension I would definitely not be happy.

[JoeRedskin]

The RO and play action off it simply gave the OLine a split second advantage last year that they aren't getting this one. Credit MS/KS last year for finding a way to make a mediocre line look good. At the same time, however, they need to find a way to beat a D that is, essentially, pinning its ears back and attacking the LOS. Not sure how they do that, but then I don't make the big bucks.

[GTripp0012]

Regarding the O-Line: GB, Det, and Oakland all have really active fronts that have given them some issues. Getting into the meat of the NFC East should help our OL look a bit better.

I think Chester may be fighting the knee that gave him some issues at the end of last year. No inside information on that, just speculation based on a lack of observable quickness.

Other than that, we're into year three of the "Will Montgomery and Tyler Polumbus get uncontested starting jobs" which is more of a potential issue in the future than an explanation for a slow start by the OL. Trent and Kory have played very well this year, although Trent is capable of playing even better than he has.

Most of the pass protection breakdowns have come from the backs this season. Not the OL.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Regarding the O-Line: GB, Det, and Oakland all have really active fronts that have given them some issues. Getting into the meat of the NFC East should help our OL look a bit better.

I think Chester may be fighting the knee that gave him some issues at the end of last year. No inside information on that, just speculation based on a lack of observable quickness.

Other than that, we're into year three of the "Will Montgomery and Tyler Polumbus get uncontested starting jobs" which is more of a potential issue in the future than an explanation for a slow start by the OL. Trent and Kory have played very well this year, although Trent is capable of playing even better than he has.

Most of the pass protection breakdowns have come from the backs this season. Not the OL.

Do you mean backs and TEs?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Do you mean backs and TEs?

Yes, although the TE's haven't been asked to pass block almost at all because the line has been solid on it's assignments. Sometimes the interior guys will get overwhelmed at the point of attack, but keeping a TE in isn't going to change that.

The TE's have struggled on the edge in the running game, and just generally speaking in the passing game. We've gotten almost no return from the position this year, except a couple of quality snaps from Jordan Reed against Green Bay.

[GTripp0012]

Four game stretch where everyone questions if Griffin can win with this team just happens to be the same level of performance of the best four game stretch of Ryan Tannehill's career.

Which is not to say that Griffin hasn't been a disappointment this year. If you told me at the beginning of the year, that Griffin and Tannehill would be virtual equals on the field over the month of September, I would have been disappointed. We could have gotten that level of performance and kept two first rounders and a second.

But it's just four games, and there's at least a chance this will be the weakest four game stretch of RG3's season.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Four game stretch where everyone questions if Griffin can win with this team just happens to be the same level of performance of the best four game stretch of Ryan Tannehill's career.

Which is not to say that Griffin hasn't been a disappointment this year. If you told me at the beginning of the year, that Griffin and Tannehill would be virtual equals on the field over the month of September, I would have been disappointed. We could have gotten that level of performance and kept two first rounders and a second.

But it's just four games, and there's at least a chance this will be the weakest four game stretch of RG3's season.

Really like what I see from Tannehill. He's not all jittery in the pocket, he stands in there and let's thing play out, and throws a hard accurate ball. Looks like Phillip Rivers with a bigger arm and way better mobility. He just needs more games under his belt.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Really like what I see from Tannehill. He's not all jittery in the pocket, he stands in there and let's thing play out, and throws a hard accurate ball. Looks like Phillip Rivers with a bigger arm and way better mobility. He just needs more games under his belt.

Tannehill has been about what I expected him to be in the pros. Good enough to make you look elsewhere to improve your team, for a while. No major issues in his game, a couple minor critical flaws. He has no deep ball, but he compensates that by being an above average runner.

He's a bit of a ball holder in the pocket, but he doesn't compound the problem by being sloppy with the football. And the crappiness of the Dolphins OTs makes the problem look worse than it is.

His upside is almost perfectly average, which is fine. With the 8th pick, you're hoping for more. Rivers isn't a bad comparison, but I think Rivers was a lot better at the same point in his career as a starter.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Tannehill has been about what I expected him to be in the pros. Good enough to make you look elsewhere to improve your team, for a while. No major issues in his game, a couple minor critical flaws. He has no deep ball, but he compensates that by being an above average runner.

He's a bit of a ball holder in the pocket, but he doesn't compound the problem by being sloppy with the football. And the crappiness of the Dolphins OTs makes the problem look worse than it is.

His upside is almost perfectly average, which is fine. With the 8th pick, you're hoping for more. Rivers isn't a bad comparison, but I think Rivers was a lot better at the same point in his career as a starter.

Rivers developed some bad habits but that was fully based on the fact his team was horrible. O line injured and depleted, no receivers and no one to throw to. Gates been injured for 3 years, v jax gone, tomalison gone, sproles gone, etc. so what happens if you force throws and try to do too much. Rivers is a hell of a qb, but like most qb u can't do it alone.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Tannehill has been about what I expected him to be in the pros. Good enough to make you look elsewhere to improve your team, for a while. No major issues in his game, a couple minor critical flaws. He has no deep ball, but he compensates that by being an above average runner.

He's a bit of a ball holder in the pocket, but he doesn't compound the problem by being sloppy with the football. And the crappiness of the Dolphins OTs makes the problem look worse than it is.

His upside is almost perfectly average, which is fine. With the 8th pick, you're hoping for more. Rivers isn't a bad comparison, but I think Rivers was a lot better at the same point in his career as a starter.

Leading the league in fumbles is not sloppy with the ball?