Around the League...Training Camp Style!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

There is no controversy.

Right now, I would agree with that.

[mredskins]

I am not so worried about KC taking over RGIII. What I am worried about is if RGIII is going to get to the elite level; in order to justify that trade we made RGII has to be elite. If all he pans out to be is a average hate to say it folks but STL won that trade.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I am not so worried about KC taking over RGIII. What I am worried about is if RGIII is going to get to the elite level; in order to justify that trade we made RGII has to be elite. If all he pans out to be is a average hate to say it folks but STL won that trade.

Right on. Well said. Same here.

[MTK]

I'm worried about winning games, not who won the trade.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm worried about winning games, not who won the trade.

Yes but the RGII trade has a big impact on that equation.

[MTK]

Winning takes care of everything and it's ultimately what everyone is judged on. Griffin can be a good to very good QB and win plenty of games. I don't think he needs to be "elite". He just needs to win.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Winning takes care of everything and it's ultimately what everyone is judged on. Griffin can be a good to very good QB and win plenty of games. I don't think he needs to be "elite". He just needs to win.

Correct, but after what we gave up for that trade the generally consistence is RGIII better turn out to be elite. In order for us to have a playoff run this year RGIII got be pretty close to elite. This isn't Seattle where Wilson is being asked to be good and the better parts of that team care the load. In WAS a lot if not at all hinges on RGII's "eliteness" for this years team's ability to capture wins.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Correct, but after what we gave up for that trade the generally consistence is RGIII better turn out to be elite. In order for us to have a playoff run this year RGIII got be pretty close to elite. This isn't Seattle where Wilson is being asked to be good and the better parts of that team care the load. In WAS a lot if not at all hinges on RGII's "eliteness" for this years team's ability to capture wins.

IMO the team could improve just enough around RGIII that he might not need to carry the entire team. Secondary, Offensive line and covering kicks is not an insurmountable list of areas that need improvement.
Plugging the holes that made the ship sink last year in combination with RGIII improvement (RGIII not having to be elite) could be enough to get us in the playoffs. Our divisional opponents are not elite.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

IMO the team could improve just enough around RGIII that he might not need to carry the entire team. Secondary, Offensive line and covering kicks is not an insurmountable list of areas that need improvement.
Plugging the holes that made the ship sink last year in combination with RGIII improvement (RGIII not having to be elite) could be enough to get us in the playoffs. Our divisional opponents are not elite.

True I agree with that as well. I guess I was more saying if the other parts didn't improve then we need a lot out of RGIII.

[Lotus]

We picked RGIII #2 overall in the draft. While he is young and and in a new system right now, he had better become elite sooner or later. You don't want to spend the #2 pick on a non-elite player.

But I agree with those who say what he needs to do more than anything this year is just win.

[Chico23231]

the extortion plot thing...unless someone was holding a gun off camera when those pictures were taken, then who cares?

Is that the new excuse now? Put that up there with he's going to rehab, my twitter was hacked, etc.

Dont put yourself in those situations to begin with, Jerry got some splaining to do imo

[MTK]

I think we've seen he's pretty damn elite when healthy.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think we've seen he's pretty damn elite when healthy.

Yup but that was not as a pocket passer. That was in his gimmick pistol formation.

[Chico23231]

Lil patience with RG3, folks remember Andy Dalton.

Let Gruden and RG3 work together a little bit.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Lil patience with RG3, folks remember Andy Dalton.

Let Gruden and RG3 work together a little bit.

Yep. I didn't mean my remarks to indicate problems now.

You have returned us to the point: if we are being patient with RGIII, there ain't no way that Cousins is starting.