Giants Game Negatives

[MTK]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

My issue is not the beer, its the PR hit. We continuously are dealing with non-football issues in the National Media with this team. The circus does not cultivate a winner culture.

It's hardly a front page story in the sports world. Nobody is really going to care.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Yes, I am saying that.

If you look at the last 3 INT's came more from staring down WR's which is easily done in college, but cannot be done in PRO's. Something he didn't do vs Philly last week.

The last INT he stared down DJ, but still threw off his back foot because he had a lineman in his face. He threw off his back foot on 2 of the other INT's which were the result of poor ball placement. That is also something that can be corrected.

The Redskins fan base is so hot and cold. Last week, Cousins was the hero of Washington. Now, everyone is ready to throw him under the bus.

I'm not saying Cousins is the next Joe Montana, but he could easily be the next Andy Dalton, and I'll take that any day of the week if we can put the pieces around him to be successful like Cincy has done.

Considering our "franchise" QB will now be coming off 3 surgeries in 5 years. It's not exactly comforting.

You and I are living in a different reality. What I saw was that all of the int's could have been completed passes had KC just thrown it to the right jersey color.

I am reminded of a young Vinny Testaverde, who threw so many inaccurate interceptions, his team had his eyes checked for color blindness.

As for fans running hot and cold, several fans here have been saying the same things - both positive and negative - about Cousins for some time.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You and I are living in a different reality. What I saw was that all of the int's could have been completed passes had KC just thrown it to the right jersey color.

I am reminded of a young Vinny Testaverde, who threw so many inaccurate interceptions, his team had his eyes checked for color blindness.

As for fans running hot and cold, several fans here have been saying the same things - both positive and negative - about Cousins for some time.

So you think he completes the first pass to Grant who had a blanket on him? He threw the ball inside because he threw off his backfoot. He didn't have to throw off his backfoot, but he did and I blame that on experience and working on mechanics. His internal clock might of been a bit off since he was already pummeled a few times.

Or the pass to Garcon where they had one safety over the top who read Cousins the whole way? He made the same exact throw last week against Philly, and looked the safety off which resulted in a completion.

The third INT was just a bad read and throw. Was due to him staring down Roberts again. If he had the time, he might of seen the TE wide open in the middle of the field, but he released the ball in 2.6 seconds with the LE in his face.

So, yes.. I guess we do live in different worlds. In my world, if you stare down WR's in the NFL in a WCO, you will be butchered. Something, Cousins didn't do in week 2/3.

I believe that the team fell behind late, and Cousins was trying to hard for the big play to compensate for the lack of production we were getting on offense and defense. Outside the ONE Morris TD run, our run game was invisible, and we were behind in double scores in a blink of an eye.

A bigger factor people keep forgetting is we started inside our own 20 7/9 drives before the 4th Q.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Bucket

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A bigger factor people keep forgetting is we started inside our own 20 7/9 drives before the 4th Q.

All the more reason to be careful with the ball. But this isn't a 1 game anomaly, its what he does. How many multiple int games has he had in college and the NFL?

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

All the more reason to be careful with the ball. But this isn't a 1 game anomaly, its what he does. How many multiple int games has he had in college and the NFL?

I'll take a QB who throws 4 TD's but throws 3INT's before I take one that throws 0 TD's and 0 INT's.... With this defense, atleast it gives us a chance to win.

[CRedskinsRule]

That's not really the choice though is it?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Bucket

So you think he completes the first pass to Grant who had a blanket on him? He threw the ball inside because he threw off his backfoot. He didn't have to throw off his backfoot, but he did and I blame that on experience and working on mechanics. His internal clock might of been a bit off since he was already pummeled a few times.

Or the pass to Garcon where they had one safety over the top who read Cousins the whole way? He made the same exact throw last week against Philly, and looked the safety off which resulted in a completion.

The third INT was just a bad read and throw. Was due to him staring down Roberts again. If he had the time, he might of seen the TE wide open in the middle of the field, but he released the ball in 2.6 seconds with the LE in his face.

So, yes.. I guess we do live in different worlds. In my world, if you stare down WR's in the NFL in a WCO, you will be butchered. Something, Cousins didn't do in week 2/3.

I believe that the team fell behind late, and Cousins was trying to hard for the big play to compensate for the lack of production we were getting on offense and defense. Outside the ONE Morris TD run, our run game was invisible, and we were behind in double scores in a blink of an eye.

A bigger factor people keep forgetting is we started inside our own 20 7/9 drives before the 4th Q.

Your argument would be true if the ball had been on target but was intercepted by someone who simply read Cousins' eyes and blanketed the receiver. This was not the case. In each case, the ball was intercepted because Cousins flat out missed a receiver who was open enough to make a catch.

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's hardly a front page story in the sports world. Nobody is really going to care.

Yeah but its an example of a billionaire doing things on the cheap....

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Since you worked for them, then you must know enough about beer to know that it doesn't go bad that fast, especially not the mild pilsner type that Bud makes. The Bud expiration date is and has been a marketing ruse to sell more beer.

If beer went bad that quickly, there'd be more beers with expiration dates, just like milk.

Some Beer is pasteurized and some is not ,the ones that aren't last around 30 days as long as they are out of the light and kept cold .

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Yeah but its an example of a billionaire doing things on the cheap....

Why toss out perfectly drinkable beer? I could understand if it were a year old but 3-6 months is absolutely fine. It's a best by date, not a hard expiration date.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Yeah but its an example of a billionaire doing things on the cheap....

No , my guess was the beer distributor screwed up or their driver .

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Yeah but its an example of a billionaire doing things on the cheap....

In a perfect world, DS would be on the proactive in making sure the stadium experience is top-notch. But in the real world, much like the guy who owns and runs the day-to-day of my job, he's more reactive than proactive. You can bet DS is well aware of the problem now, and has probably already taken steps to ensure this doesn't happen again. But before this report came out, you can bet he probably had a million other things on his to-do list than worry about whether the beer is fresh at his stadium.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Some Beer is pasteurized and some is not ,the ones that aren't last around 30 days as long as they are out of the light and kept cold .

Naw man. You really worked for Bud? Were you a truck driver or something? You sure were not the brewmaster.

I have made and tasted many a homebrewed and commercial beer which was not filtered or otherwise treated (sometimes still had active yeast), and they were fine long after the brewing. I had one yeast-in porter seven years after brewing and it still was awesome.

A familiar example: Trappist ale from Belgium. It is untreated, unfiltered, yeast-in, and left its homeland in Belgium who knows how long ago. But boy is it yummy.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Perhaps he feels fan experience is enhanced by superior product on the field so he doesn't worry about stadium atmosphere. Oh wait...

[NC_Skins]

Discussing Cousins INTs, here is a good breakdown on the INTs during the game.

Break it Down: Kirk Cousins' mechanical failures led to disaster against Giants - NFL - SI.com

The problem in this game is we got behind and Cousins tried to play the role of Super Man without having the skills to back it up. He needed to play his game and take what the defense gave him. Even the best QBs in the league know that forcing stuff generally never works out. That was the difference in this game and the last two games. The previous two, we saw Kirk playing to his strengths and taking what the defense gave. If he can do that, we can win. If he tries to do what he did this past Thursday, we are going to be drafting in the top 3.