Who is Kirk Cousins?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I need to see consistent play for multiple games AND I also need to see him perform on the road. Something he has yet to do with the exception being the one game in CLE in 2012.

I've been saying this for quite some time. Being consistent hasn't been one of Cousins strong points. He's shown he can micro manage a game and come from behind.... and he has also shown that he had turnover tendacies that won't go away

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[DYoungJelly]

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For what it's worth.

Cousins is in pretty decent company.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

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For what it's worth.



Cousins is in pretty decent company.

Funny how some guys on here mentioned trading for Mathew Stafford. I guess they didn't realize he has more picks than Cousins. FYI, Andrew Luck, Mathew Stafford, and Peyton Manning have more picks than Cousins. Joe Flacco is tied with 8.



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[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. - Mark Twain

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2015

For what it's worth.

Cousins is in pretty decent company.

In watching Cousins I don't really care what some analytics say about his play or what company that puts him in. Please everyone stop comparing him to other QBs especially Manning and Farve. Your argument doesn't hold water. My eyes tell me he has made some strides this year in the mental aspect of his game after he makes mistakes. But what they also tell me is that he has yet to put together back to back good games, he has yet to play a good game on the road and he his good games are in the middle of multiple bad games. BOTTTOM LINE the jury is still well out on him and until consistent play is accomplished I don't feel he is the future.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

In watching Cousins I don't really care what some analytics say about his play or what company that puts him in. Please everyone stop comparing him to other QBs especially Manning and Farve. Your argument doesn't hold water. My eyes tell me he has made some strides this year in the mental aspect of his game after he makes mistakes. But what they also tell me is that he has yet to put together back to back good games, he has yet to play a good game on the road and he his good games are in the middle of multiple bad games. BOTTTOM LINE the jury is still well out on him and until consistent play is accomplished I don't feel he is the future.

You are entitled to your opinion.


The good thing is we have a competent GM that will make the call on Kirk Cousins. Luckily no one on this website will have a say.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

In watching Cousins I don't really care what some analytics say about his play or what company that puts him in. Please everyone stop comparing him to other QBs especially Manning and Farve. Your argument doesn't hold water. My eyes tell me he has made some strides this year in the mental aspect of his game after he makes mistakes. But what they also tell me is that he has yet to put together back to back good games, he has yet to play a good game on the road and he his good games are in the middle of multiple bad games. BOTTTOM LINE the jury is still well out on him and until consistent play is accomplished I don't feel he is the future.

My eyes are seeing the exact same thing.

Not looking for him to be flawless, just looking for the good games to be about a 2:1 ratio of good games to the bad ones. Consistently.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

My eyes are seeing the exact same thing.

Not looking for him to be flawless, just looking for the good games to be about a 2:1 ratio of good games to the bad ones. Consistently.

I asked you about that and you said that a 2:1 good to bad games ratio wasn't good enough. In your latest post you say that he shouldn't be signed unless he plays "great" the rest of this season. Great? Is that all you want? Just for him to become great right away? You are more inconsistent than Kirk.

Well, you are consistent in that Kirk can't play well enough to suit you even if he wins Offensive Player of the Week.

BTW, what have you got in mind for Plan B if Kirk isn't re-signed?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I asked you about that and you said that a 2:1 good to bad games ratio wasn't good enough. In your latest post you say that he shouldn't be signed unless he plays "great" the rest of this season. Great? Is that all you want? Just for him to become great right away? You are more inconsistent than Kirk.

Well, you are consistent in that Kirk can't play well enough to suit you even if he wins Offensive Player of the Week.

I would suggest I have been entirely consistent in my position. Here is the prior conversation:

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I want at least two or three games of consistent good play - meaning: 1) No bonehead INT's; and 2) consistent accuracy with his passes.

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

... Would you say he's getting there if he can produce two or three good games in a row with one or two poor games in between the good ones? (my emphasis)

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Not really. To me, that's his current MO.

Here is the quote to which my 2:1 comment was responsive:

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

... My eyes tell me he has made some strides this year in the mental aspect of his game after he makes mistakes. But what they also tell me is that he has yet to put together back to back good games, he has yet to play a good game on the road and he his good games are in the middle of multiple bad games. BOTTTOM LINE the jury is still well out on him and until consistent play is accomplished I don't feel he is the future.

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

My eyes are seeing the exact same thing.

Not looking for him to be flawless, just looking for the good games to be about a 2:1 ratio of good games to the bad ones. Consistently.

If KC has one or two good games for every one or two bad games he is just the same old KC. If he strings two or three good games on either side of a SINGLE bad game, then I think he has shown significant improvement. With nine games to go, if he has only two "bad" games, that's improvement. He doesn't have to be great or even good in the rest, just no bonehead interceptions and decent accuracy.

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

BTW, what have you got in mind for Plan B if Kirk isn't re-signed?

Honestly, don't know. Don't know who is likely to be available. My responses have been to the question "Who is KC" not "If you don't think KC is next year's QB, what's the plan?"

KC may be the best option for next year, but to me that's a entirely different question from who he is NOW. To me, he is the same guy he has been for the last THREE AND A HALF YEARS. Decent game, good game, dear-god-how-he-still-be-in-the-league game, less than good game, really good game. All mixed in together.

You see something that makes you think he can change that. Okay, fair enough. I don't. At the same time, he may end up be being the best option for next year.

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[Meks]

Everyone knows we are rebuilding, but refuses to accept that rebuilding takes place at qb as well....

Im not the biggest fan of gruden, or mcvay and the way they call plays sometimes.... then sometimes they get into a decent rythym and look ok, kinda like Kyle used to.... its sucks to lose, and look bad, but we're not that good.... period... as for Kirk, the kid has the ability, year 2 in this system, year 1 as the starter, its night over night folks, damn.

[skinsfan69]

The Redskins are going to have to make some kind of decision on KC before he hits the free agent market.

[Irrefutable]

SIAP....Cousins is a free agent, if he plays well he will be hard sign

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

SIAP....Cousins is a free agent, if he plays well he will be hard sign

And signing him to an extension is risky, given his inconsistency.