Recount Opinions

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

So is this a case of everyone is doing it so we shouldn't be upset?

I'm well aware of the US having a storied history of meddling in other countries affairs, propping up false governments, assassinations, etc., but to have something happen here and to see so many people shrug their shoulders about it is very disappointing.

No its more the case of timing. Before the election President Obama, HC along with many of a group sang a huge refrain of let it go and respect of the results if you lose.

President Obama in the above interview acknowledges that all of this was done BEFORE they lectured Trump on accepting the results. President Obama acknowledges that any interference that did happen stopped long before the debates and there was no tampering with the voting itself thanks to his direct involvement.

But now that HC lost, rather than a honest self examination of how a person, ANY person, could lose to Trump, the core democratic reflection is on an occurrence that President Obama acknowledges had no direct impact.



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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

But now that HC lost, rather than a honest self examination of how a person, ANY person, could lose to Trump, the core democratic reflection is on an occurrence that President Obama acknowledges had no direct impact.



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Was it not Trump who was screaming though the campaign that the election was rigged?
Was it not Trump who would not agree to the election results if he lost?
Is it not the FBI ,CIA and NSA all saying the same thing?
Sorry but Wikileaks has no credibility ,none.
None of the Agencies have said a word about what it is they think happen or how or when.
Pretty sure Obama didn't give out all the pertinent info in that interview.
Do you really believe this or worse would not be going on had Trump lost?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Was it not Trump who was screaming though the campaign that the election was rigged?
Was it not Trump who would not agree to the election results if he lost?
Is it not the FBI ,CIA and NSA all saying the same thing?
Sorry but Wikileaks has no credibility ,none.
None of the Agencies have said a word about what it is they think happen or how or when.
Pretty sure Obama didn't give out all the pertinent info in that interview.
Do you really believe this or worse would not be going on had Trump lost?

I don't know. Chances are Trump would have screamed and hollered. But he basically said he would. President Obama and HC were strident that if he did it would have been a ridiculous attempt by a vain man and that there was no indication that the election results would be influenced by anyone.

The reason I point to President Obama's interview is because in it he says that from early September there was no more interference. That means that most of the hacking took place during the primaries. So this outrage now is just political showmanship like Trump's hollering and screaming would have been.

As an aside - Who would the Russians rather have in a 3way question - HC Bernie or Trump. We know for a fact that NOONE wants HC in a 3 way so I have to say that the Russians were preferring Bernie and Trump.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't know. Chances are Trump would have screamed and hollered. But he basically said he would. President Obama and HC were strident that if he did it would have been a ridiculous attempt by a vain man and that there was no indication that the election results would be influenced by anyone.

The reason I point to President Obama's interview is because in it he says that from early September there was no more interference. That means that most of the hacking took place during the primaries. So this outrage now is just political showmanship like Trump's hollering and screaming would have been.

As an aside - Who would the Russians rather have in a 3way question - HC Bernie or Trump. We know for a fact that NOONE wants HC in a 3 way so I have to say that the Russians were preferring Bernie and Trump.

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See I disagree and I point to the New Oil deal that Russia was just a major part of,Putin likes Trump and visa versa.The people in this country will pay for that.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

So is this a case of everyone is doing it so we shouldn't be upset?

I'm well aware of the US having a storied history of meddling in other countries affairs, propping up false governments, assassinations, etc., but to have something happen here and to see so many people shrug their shoulders about it is very disappointing.

The Putin does whatever he wants because Obama and the Obama administration has failed miserably time and time again to curb the Russian influence and aggression throughout the world. Let's take account: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Snowden, NATO and the European Union, Iran and Russia coming arms deal: Iran and Russia Negotiating $10 Billion Arms Deal | The Diplomat

And now the hacks during the election.

The most disappointing thing to me is why is Russia issue now? Dems always have their head buried in the sand until it's too late. Where was the outrage before?

[FlyerSkin]

Where the hell is the evidence of this
Russian hacking? The
CIA just said so? These liberals need any scapegoat they can grasp for just because they can't comprehend how their candidate pulled a
"Romney" by calling half the voters " deplorables", not too mention the corruption, and the wacky health episodes. No these reasons aren't why she lost, it is Russia's fault. Way to kill two birds with one stone. Deligitmize an incoming president and really get a new cold war going.

[Chico23231]

"Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love!" Twitter trump


Lol...this guy is president. Sounds like the biggest prick

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

"Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love!" Twitter trump


Lol...this guy is president. Sounds like the biggest prick

Doesn't surprise me, he is who he is, a big time jerk and immature as all hell. Just the type to run the free world, god help us.

I just hope I can learn to tune out his BS out for the next 4 years.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

"Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love!" Twitter trump





Lol...this guy is president. Sounds like the biggest prick

He is not just a jerk. He is mentally ill. He actually probably needs serious help.

[Chico23231]

Ford cancels Mexico plant; calls it ‘vote of confidence’ for Trump | WTVR.com

Boom Trump strikes again!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Ford cancels Mexico plant; calls it ‘vote of confidence’ for Trump | WTVR.com

Boom Trump strikes again!

Pretty sure I think you mean Obama.

"
Ford currently employs 85,000 Americans, up 28,000, or nearly 50%, in just the last five years. In Mexico, Ford employs 8,800."

....Trump isn't president ,yet.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Pretty sure I think you mean Obama.

"
Ford currently employs 85,000 Americans, up 28,000, or nearly 50%, in just the last five years. In Mexico, Ford employs 8,800."

....Trump isn't president ,yet.

Read the article, Ford is paying heed to Trump.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Read the article, Ford is paying heed to Trump.

And read your own link it says Ford has almost doubled it's work force in the "LAST FIVE YEARS".Who was President during(still) that time?

[Chico23231]

4 in custody in Chicago after Facebook video allegedly shows 'Tr - NBC12 - WWBT - Richmond, VA News On Your Side

Could u imagine the outrage if the roles were reversed? But u will hear very little of this story...doesn't fit the narrative for the media

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

4 in custody in Chicago after Facebook video allegedly shows 'Tr - NBC12 - WWBT - Richmond, VA News On Your Side



Could u imagine the outrage if the roles were reversed? But u will hear very little of this story...doesn't fit the narrative for the media

As long as they r punished who cares about the media. I do not disagree with you though. If this was the other way around it would be a huuuuuge story. But again as long as the idiots in the world are dealt with fuck the media and their fluff.