Dwayne Haskins

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by kct1975

I totally agree with you both!

Keenum is not that bad and I personally see absolutely no reason to start Haskins at all this season.

Personally I would keep Haskins on the bench for at least a year and maybe work him into a few game this year if possible. But I would not make Haskins the Starting QB until next year.

As I mentioned, Keenum is not a bad QB, and the Redskins most likely won't be contenders this season, so I see not reason to push Haskins too quickly. My feeling is that with all of hopes of having a Franchise QB, I don't want to see Haskins thrown in too early and have him get injured or lose his confidence to quickly. IMHO, two of the problems that plagued RG3 were getting injured in his rookie season and then getting hit enough times where he got goosie.

Of course the biggest problem with RG3 was the owner fawning over RG3, and giving RG3 a sense of entitlement. But that is another story!

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RG3's problem is that he couldn't read NFL defenses and he never could play at the NFL level. Haskins needs experience and can get it best by playing. I just don't see how Haskins is going to learn a lot from watching Keenum or McCoy play. A compromise is to let Case play for 5-6 games then put Haskins in to finish out the season.

If Haskins wins out the preseason competition I just don't see how you can hold him back simply because he may get hurt.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Warthog

RG3's problem is that he couldn't read NFL defenses and he never could play at the NFL level. Haskins needs experience and can get it best by playing. I just don't see how Haskins is going to learn a lot from watching Keenum or McCoy play. A compromise is to let Case play for 5-6 games then put Haskins in to finish out the season.

If Haskins wins out the preseason competition I just don't see how you can hold him back simply because he may get hurt.

He's not going to learn much behind those 2 avg QBs, its not like he's sitting behind a proven starter, (Cousins)

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He's not going to learn much behind those 2 avg QBs, its not like he's sitting behind a proven starter, (Cousins)

Mahomes learned from Smith for a year, yeah I know Smith won't be playing but I guarantee they'll want Haskins doing the same thing, even if Keenum starts for a bit. Keenum didn't make it this far on his athletic ability, it's his work ethic that keeps getting him opportunities.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He's not going to learn much behind those 2 avg QBs, its not like he's sitting behind a proven starter, (Cousins)

You would be surprised how much wealth of knowledge can be obtained from guys like Case Keenum and Alex Smith. And yes, I'd even say Colt McCoy to a lesser extent. I don't see a need for Haskins to be thrown into the fire unless he clearly beats out the other guys for the starting job.

It's not like he's coming onto the scene with John Beck and enter no-name quarterback as the backup. He's got some guys around him who can help build him up. Gruden is pretty good with quarterbacks, and he's got some former quarterbacks as coaches who can help further develop him. I think Haskins will be OK.

[MTK]

All depends on how he looks in camp. I wouldn't be against him sitting out that brutal 5 game start to the season and coming in after that. But if he looks good in camp and seems like he can handle things, get him out there.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

All depends on how he looks in camp. I wouldn't be against him sitting out that brutal 5 game start to the season and coming in after that. But if he looks good in camp and seems like he can handle things, get him out there.

He is already better than Keenum, might as well start him barring a horrible Pre season.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He is already better than Keenum, might as well start him barring a horrible Pre season.

We don’t know that yet.


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[sdskinsfan2001]

The best QB should play until we're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. Same for every position imo. After that, nothing wrong with letting the young guys play a lot more and/or start, even if they aren't necessarily the best at that given time.

Hopefully Haskins wins the job, but also nothing wrong with him sitting and watching for part of the year, or even the whole year if we somehow get 2017 Keenum.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

We don’t know that yet.


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We don't but as for potential its not even close.

[mooby]

I really don't have a problem with either approach. There isn't one approach that determines a successful qb. As long as he works hard, studies the playbook, and learns on the field (and doesn't develop a friendship with the owner that allows him to go over Gruden's head when they inevitably butt heads) he should be fine.

I would prefer him to sit on the bench and study the book, learn the terminology, etc. before he starts but that's only because we still don't have a reliable #1 wideout for him to throw to. Richardson just isn't that guy, Doctson definitely isn't either, and everyone else needs time to learn. Reed is a weapon when healthy, but we all know how that goes.

[httr198020]

Jay should put Haskins out there when he's ready and not a moment before.

[skinsfaninok]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1h6bc3Dniw

Good stuff from Bruce

[MTK]

They key is going to be Gruden and KOC designing an offense he can handle as a rookie.


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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

They key is going to be Gruden and KOC designing an offense he can handle as a rookie.


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No doubt, I believe they will. I know some here are hesitant to play him right away but I think this guy is special. He's super smart

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by MTK

They key is going to be Gruden and KOC designing an offense he can handle as a rookie.


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If that's the key then we're screwed. Jay Gruden's offense was designed in the 1980's by somebody else and he has used that offense, unchanged in any way, since he has been an OC. Gruden has no imagination whatsoever and his totally predictable play-calling proves it. On the positive side, perhaps our new HC can design something effective for Haskins in 2020.