Haskins released

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I can't do it. That would mean $52+ million tied up in the QB position for 2021 (unless you cut Alex or he retires), not to mention the draft capital and/or players it would take to trade for him.

Can't do it.

Even if Smith retires we're tying up too much cap space with his number, Haskins and Stafford, when only 1 would be on the roster. Plus we're talking trade capitol on top. I'd go FA.

Fitz might work for year but I'm coming around to the idea of hoping Smith retires then we go with Tyrod Taylor for a year (or 2) as we're unlikely to get a starter picking bottom half round 1 and I don't agree with trading the farm for the #2 or #3 pick. If a top QB doesn't fall in our lap wherever we pick, I say ride a good FA for a year with this D and see if he's our man next year. I think our starter next year is not currently on the roster.

[skinsfaninok]

Alex Smith will prob retire

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Alex Smith will prob retire

I hope so. I fear we might have to Polamalu him.

ICYMI, Polamalu says in his new book that the Steelers approached him and told him to retire or he would be cut. Honestly, I can't say I disagree with the method.

[skinsfaninok]

Smith can barely keep his calf healthy on the same leg he almost lost.. He's had a great comeback story and if he leads this team to the playoffs, that is a great ride into the sunset.

[njant]

There is no way up offering Payne and a 1st rd to move up don,t touch are d-line at all ,very young and very good with not a lot of money spent there yet ,I’m on board with Stanford or Ryan but at what cost to get them and salary cap issues, I’m interested to see how the kid Jones from banana will do at combine along with Kyle trask and kid from Wenzhou school.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by njant

There is no way up offering Payne and a 1st rd to move up don,t touch are d-line at all ,very young and very good with not a lot of money spent there yet ,I’m on board with Stanford or Ryan but at what cost to get them and salary cap issues, I’m interested to see how the kid Jones from banana will do at combine along with Kyle trask and kid from Wenzhou school.

I'm with you on the keeping the dlinemen, unfortunately in order to get a starting QB identified by our scouts, you have to sacrifice someone from an area of strength. Allen's contract is coming up, Payne and Settle are next, they will require $$$. Trust me, I wouldn't want to do it and that's why I hate the salary cap and FA, but we need a QB. Stafford and/or Ryan would cost $$$ which could also affect keeping our linemen in the future.

[FrenchSkin]

Schrager reports Rivera wanted to cut Haskins last week, but was talked out of it by multiple people inside the org, including Doug Williams. Doug says it's "news to me" and SI's sources contradict the report. (But it's not like Doug was going to say "yeah definitely I talked him out of it last week and because of me you witnessed Sunday's fiasco!")

Anyway, I am not the only one seeing Snyder's ghost around this mess... which makes me even more glad Haskins was finally cut !

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Schrager reports Rivera wanted to cut Haskins last week, but was talked out of it by multiple people inside the org, including Doug Williams. Doug says it's "news to me" and SI's sources contradict the report. (But it's not like Doug was going to say "yeah definitely I talked him out of it last week and because of me you witnessed Sunday's fiasco!")

Anyway, I am not the only one seeing Snyder's ghost around this mess... which makes me even more glad Haskins was finally cut !

Schrager reports... mmmmk. Said who? He didn't name a damn person - who is he tied to in this organization that he could get that nugget? Nobody...

I'm not buying it. RR did what he had to do, which was put the QB in on Sunday that he thought gave the team the best chance to win the division - period. 31 other coaches in the league would have likely done the same thing in that impossible position. Now that Sunday happened, it's clear that DH doesn't offer anymore than Heinicke, and after two years invested, the decision became much easier.

Man, people just like drumming up shit about this organization - whether it's there or not. Nope, not buying that at all.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Schrager reports... mmmmk. Said who? He didn't name a damn person - who is he tied to in this organization that he could get that nugget? Nobody...

I'm not buying it. RR did what he had to do, which was put the QB in on Sunday that he thought gave the team the best chance to win the division - period. 31 other coaches in the league would have likely done the same thing in that impossible position. Now that Sunday happened, it's clear that DH doesn't offer anymore than Heinicke, and after two years invested, the decision became much easier.

Man, people just like drumming up shit about this organization - whether it's there or not. Nope, not buying that at all.

Fair enough. And I sure hope you're right. I just think it's a legit thing to fear. An anyway, Ron got to cut him this week, and it's all that matter I guess.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Fair enough. And I sure hope you're right. I just think it's a legit thing to fear. An anyway, Ron got to cut him this week, and it's all that matter I guess.

Unfortunately this sort of thing has been so common over the past 20+ years that people just come to expect it with this organization - and don't question it.

I really think with RR here that stuff is over. If not, I don't expect him to hang around too long.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Unfortunately this sort of thing has been so common over the past 20+ years that people just come to expect it with this organization - and don't question it.

I really think with RR here that stuff is over. If not, I don't expect him to hang around too long.

If you want to talk culture change - did you hear one peep, rumor, innuendo, or shaming statement toward Haskins from "sources" over this past season. The closest we come is a note from Schrager (who??) that says RR wanted to cut Haskins. Hell who didn't want to cut him. Even in Schrager's story he says that they talked about reasons and Rivera chose to keep him. So, even from this attempt at stirring drama, they reinforce that the fact that Rivera a) is in charge b) listens to differing opinions and can reflect versus dictate.

This is the next new era in the history of this team and maybe it leads back to respectability then excellence. GO TEAM

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Schrager reports Rivera wanted to cut Haskins last week, but was talked out of it by multiple people inside the org, including Doug Williams. Doug says it's "news to me" and SI's sources contradict the report. (But it's not like Doug was going to say "yeah definitely I talked him out of it last week and because of me you witnessed Sunday's fiasco!")

Anyway, I am not the only one seeing Snyder's ghost around this mess... which makes me even more glad Haskins was finally cut !

If Snyder was truly involved, Haskins would still be on the team. I don't buy this at all. Also Snyder has other issues that are keeping him preoccupied.

[njant]

I give up settle or ionnadis but not both

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by njant

I give up settle or ionnadis but not both

That’s what I meant, one of the 3, your best bet being Payne since he was a 1st rounder and playing like one.

[skinsfaninok]

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