When is Enough ,Enough?

[sdskinsfan2001]

Y'all wanna have some good reading. Read Tom Cotton's oped in the NYT. But skip the article. Go straight to the comments. Cotton is either Hitler reincarnated or the next president of the USA.

[MTK]

Took a long weekend trip to Chicago in 2011 and had a great time. Great food city.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I was there in 2005 taking a course with USA Track & Field when the Red Sox were playing the Cubs for the first time since 1918. I geeked out at the chance to go to Wrigley to watch and paid way more for tickets than I should have but worth it till this day if you ask me.

[Chico23231]

Lol 18 murdered in a single day in a US city and nobody gives a flying fuck and nobody should...got it.

Yet a some bullshit 75 year old gets pushed down after he put his hands on a cop = panties in a bunch.

Lol amazing

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Lol 18 murdered in a single day in a US city and nobody gives a flying fuck and nobody should...got it.

Yet a some bullshit 75 year old gets pushed down after he put his hands on a cop = panties in a bunch.

Lol amazing

What was the Republican solution to citizen on citizen violence that they apparently haven't been able to enact yet? Just curious because I wasn't aware that was an easily solvable problem.

LEO on citizen violence is easy to make noise about because LEO are trusted with higher authority. They have the authority to end a citizen's life on their word alone, which is exactly what would've happened if somebody didn't film Floyd's death. 10 out of 10 times a judge is going to take an officer's word over a citizen's.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mooby

What was the Republican solution to citizen on citizen violence that they apparently haven't been able to enact yet? Just curious because I wasn't aware that was an easily solvable problem.

LEO on citizen violence is easy to make noise about because LEO are trusted with higher authority. They have the authority to end a citizen's life on their word alone, which is exactly what would've happened if somebody didn't film Floyd's death. 10 out of 10 times a judge is going to take an officer's word over a citizen's.

Hard to legislate making people value life. Definitely no easy fix. Most of the changes need to be made individually and at the community level, not in state capitals/DC.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

What was the Republican solution to citizen on citizen violence that they apparently haven't been able to enact yet? Just curious because I wasn't aware that was an easily solvable problem.

LEO on citizen violence is easy to make noise about because LEO are trusted with higher authority. They have the authority to end a citizen's life on their word alone, which is exactly what would've happened if somebody didn't film Floyd's death. 10 out of 10 times a judge is going to take an officer's word over a citizen's.

“Citizen on citizen violence” or 87 shootings with 18 murders within 24 hours. Don’t try to make it pretty, it ain’t and it’s a fuckin embarrassment.

Policy wise there is a lot id do...but fuck that mooby, let’s talk about woke-actions and power to the people:

Well first thing we are gonna do is march, then make some signs, maybe riot and loot some shoe stores, ( BYOSP)bring your own spray paint and vandalize, yell “defund gang activity”, some smoke weed, and then do the same thing tomorrow. You in?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

“Citizen on citizen violence” or 87 shootings with 18 murders within 24 hours. Don’t try to make it pretty, it ain’t and it’s a fuckin embarrassment.

Policy wise there is a lot id do...but fuck that mooby, let’s talk about woke-actions and power to the people:

Well first thing we are gonna do is march, then make some signs, maybe riot and loot some shoe stores, ( BYOSP)bring your own spray paint and vandalize, yell “defund gang activity”, some smoke weed, and then do the same thing tomorrow. You in?

Why can't you separate the peaceful protesters from the looters and rioters? The ones trying to use Floyd's death to have a discussion on police reform are the not the same ones robbing stores and smashing shit at night.

I'm not smart enough to have the solution, but I agree with whoever said it starts with the community. That doesn't mean there isn't room for police to do their jobs better. I mean soldiers in war zones (where literally they have to assume that everybody around them wants to inflict harm on them) have stricter ROE than cops here (who get to enjoy the heavy-conservative thin blue line endorsement).

And for the record, the idea that I'm anti-cop is asinine. If you know or knew what I do for a living, the people I interact with every day, there's no wiggle room for being anti-cop at my job. That doesn't mean I don't think there isn't room for improvement in their job. Being entrusted with the authority they have means they have to be held to a higher standard. We need cops. That's an absolute, no room for negotiation on my part. We also need them to stop killing citizens unnecessarily.

And finally, it's the actions of a few that outweigh the good work of many. Much like any profession, or ideology, whether we're talking cops, rioters/protesters, terrorists/religious extremists, Democrats, or Republicans, it's the extreme ones that get the most shine. And their words and actions always manage to rise above the level headed ones who only want to make a positive impact on their community.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Chicago is a shit hole right now. No doubt. When I see shit like that the change has to come from the community. They have to stop relying on politicians to fix everything for them and have ownership in their community. You can't complain about gang activity and then not help the police if you have information about gang related violence. It is not a one way street.
The way I see it is different from you though.

Citizen on citizen murder is sad. When those we trust with power to protect us hurt citizens that makes me angry.

[MTK]

THE INTERNET RESPONDS TO PEOPLE ONLY JUST REALISING RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE ARE POLITICAL

Just hilarious

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by MTK

THE INTERNET RESPONDS TO PEOPLE ONLY JUST REALISING RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE ARE POLITICAL

Just hilarious

So what. Who the hell cares? Do you think everybody should follow and care about all the same things you do?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

So what. Who the hell cares? Do you think everybody should follow and care about all the same things you do?

Feel free to not respond in the future if something doesn't interest you. It's how this message board thing works.

[SunnySide]

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I think rubber bullets need to be banned.

The pepper balls sound much more non-lethal.

[sdskinsfan2001]

^^^^^

Damn, had no idea those things fucked you up like that. That is some serious damage.

[MTK]

I read that at least 8 people have lost eyes due to rubber bullets and cops are apparently aiming for the head


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