Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Jason Taylor will make everyone around him better. We had no one worth double teaming on our line. Carter stepped up at the end of the year and may have started to get double teamed. If anything now jason taylor will continue to be double teamed and open up opportunities for the other 3 linemen to get to the QB.

Ive always thought Andre Carter was in the mold of Jason Taylor, but hadnt learned all the technique yet. Well now he will learn first hand. No one heard of Adowale Ogunleye (sp) and Taylor turned him into a sack machine by takign the double teams to his side.

Im sooo happy we finally have a pass rush with our front four. We need that pressure even more so being thin at corner.

YES, you have it. He will make everybody around him better!!! As you say, he will create oppurtunities for the down lineman..........and for Carter.
JT is a good guy. Monster on the field, AND in the locker room as well . Pretty good "fox-trot" as well
Whatever he has left in the tank, we WILL get. That is who he is. My only regret is.......we do not play the Fins this season
nice work Vinny!!!!!!!!

[skinsnut]

Evans aint the answer folks...he's a backup...to start, he'd need further grooming...
Ideal scenario is Evans plays situationally for a couple years and develops into a starter before JT retires....however.....Evans aint ready to start for the whole season yet....1 or 2 games maybe...but that is why he's a backup.

I am glad JT was available...I was just hoping we'd pay a lower price

[MTK]

I'm really not sure how losing a 2nd and a 6th equates to losing 2-3 games down the road, that's purely speculative.

[Jamaican'Skin]

I'm not sure how you can say that just using D. Evans, instead of trading for J. Taylor would have been a better move. Evans hasn't had the opportunity to start 16 games, hell he's probably started maybe 4 his whole career, while Taylor is a proven Pro Bowl starter. Taylor has signed on for at least a two year stint, allowing all the ends to learn from him. On top of this, we have created more depth on the D Line, proven depth might I add. Whats to say that had we not traded for Taylor, putting our trust in Evans, and he couldn't manage? I mean I thought it would be better to get a sure thing, than hope for a backup to be starting calibre

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Interesting tidbit: Taylor has more career interceptions and passes defensed than Carlos Rogers. In fact, since Rogers came into the league (i.e. over the last three years), he only has 4 more passes defensed and one more interception than Taylor. I find that interesting for a DE.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

Interesting tidbit: Taylor has more career interceptions and passes defensed than Carlos Rogers. In fact, since Rogers came into the league (i.e. over the last three years), he only has 4 more passes defensed and one more interception than Taylor. I find that interesting for a DE.

Is this really all that surprising?? Rogers sucks...

[724Skinsfan]

One thing's for sure. Football is back and we've got some great discussions going on right now.

[MTK]

I wasn't against making a move for Taylor a few months ago. But in the end it's the offense I'm looking at as the real key to the season. If the offense clicks I see no reason why this team couldn't be a real threat in the NFC. We have a solid line, some nice playmaking threats at WR, RB, and TE... now it's just up to Campbell to guide the ship. If Campbell breaks out we could be in for a very good year.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I wasn't against making a move for Taylor a few months ago. But in the end it's the offense I'm looking at as the real key to the season. If the offense clicks I see no reason why this team couldn't be a real threat in the NFC. We have a solid line, some nice playmaking threats at WR, RB, and TE... now it's just up to Campbell to guide the ship. If Campbell breaks out we could be in for a very good year.

The defense looks to be solidly above average now. They won't be quite as good as last year I don't think, but we can live with above average performance.

The offense is all about Campbell and the guys blocking for him. If he posts numbers similar to last year (or worse than last year), we probably don't make the playoffs. If he improves, I really, really like our chances.

It's asking a lot for him to improve this season, especially early on. Someone is going to have to win those first few games for us, and I think Campbell gives us the best chance in September.

[Beemnseven]

I know they had to make this move, but let's not forget what put them in this position in the first place...

This is what happens when you depend on 35 year-old guy season after season who has spent 13 years at the most violent position on the football field. All this crap about being a "great locker room leader" sure sounds great now, huh? Suppose this front office hadn't ignored the defensive end position at the upper end of the draft for the past, oh, ELEVEN years?

So what we've done is replace a 35 year-old guy with a 34 year-old guy who'd rather be making movies and they've lost a high draft pick in the process.

Wonderful.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I know they had to make this move, but let's not forget what put them in this position in the first place...

This is what happens when you depend on 35 year-old guy season after season who has spent 13 years at the most violent position on the football field. All this crap about being a "great locker room leader" sure sounds great now, huh? Suppose this front office hadn't ignored the defensive end position at the upper end of the draft for the past, oh, ELEVEN years?

So what we've done is replace a 35 year-old guy with a 34 year-old guy who'd rather be making movies and they've lost a high draft pick in the process.
Wonderful.

Though I can see your point....2 major factors...Jason Taylor is WAY better than Daniels...count the probowls AND we had no other legitimate option.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I know they had to make this move, but let's not forget what put them in this position in the first place...

This is what happens when you depend on 35 year-old guy season after season who has spent 13 years at the most violent position on the football field. All this crap about being a "great locker room leader" sure sounds great now, huh? Suppose this front office hadn't ignored the defensive end position at the upper end of the draft for the past, oh, ELEVEN years?

So what we've done is replace a 35 year-old guy with a 34 year-old guy who'd rather be making movies and they've lost a high draft pick in the process.

Wonderful.

I see your points. But it's not like Daniels has been deteriorating over the years. He's missed one game in the last three years. It's not unreasonable to think he had at least a year left. Plus, while some want to dismiss him as a practice squad scrub, the Redskins were counting on Buzbee to take a major step this year at least from a depth standpoint.

On a somewhat related note, will be interesting to see how much PT Lorenzo Alexander gets against the run on the d-line now.

[SmootSmack]

So if we did move Evans up to starter who would back him up then?

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So if we did move Evans up to starter who would back him up then?

Cedric Wilson man, the DE equivalent of Anthony Mix and Robert McCune

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Cedric Wilson man, the DE equivalent of Anthony Mix and Robert McCune

You mean Chris Wilson, right?