It's Over: Cutler Going to Chicago

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

They got more than Cutler's worth in terms of draft picks, but if they go and waste those picks, then they would probably have just been better off with Cutler.

GTripp is playing the role of Dr. Obvious today.

Well, McDaniels better develop Orton or Simms into a winner right away, and he better use those draft picks on defense; otherwise he'd be screwed.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well, McDaniels better develop Orton or Simms into a winner right away, and he better use those draft picks on defense; otherwise he'd be screwed.

Well...people who actually know what they're doing give NFL rookie coaches more of a window of just two years to start to win. You can't even bring your first draft class to fruition in two years! McDaniels won't have to find a standout QB in his first year. By the way, WHY the hell would any rookie head coach be on/considered the hot seat after his first year??? That is the most moronic thing I've heard and only my illustrious Skins FO can give that sentiment to a greenhorn coach.

Pat Bowlen knows that hiring McDaniels is going to entail some growing pains and has probably accounted a grace period of more than two years to see it out. McDaniels has more than plenty of advantages with all of those high picks, good for him and the Broncos.

Here's to building for the future...clink!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Well...people who actually know what they're doing give NFL rookie coaches more of a window of just two years to start to win. You can't even bring your first draft class to fruition in two years! McDaniels won't have to find a standout QB in his first year. By the way, WHY the hell would any rookie head coach be on/considered the hot seat after his first year??? That is the most moronic thing I've heard and only my illustrious Skins FO can give that sentiment to a greenhorn coach.

Pat Bowlen knows that hiring McDaniels is going to entail some growing pains and has probably accounted a grace period of more than two years to see it out. McDaniels has more than plenty of advantages with all of those high picks, good for him and the Broncos.

Here's to building for the future...clink!

The Denver FO gave the keys to the car to a 30something coach and who went on to run the starting QB out of town. One thing is to have a moronic rich owner that has crazy tantrums every now and then, but another is to hand the keys to the franchise to a young coach and have this happen.

Put yourself in the shoes of a Denver fan, your team had a young talented QB, and the ownerships hires a new coach that wants to bring a career back up that had one season? That's idiotic. Funny thing that we complain that our team doesn't have a true GM, you think maybe Denver could have used a GM to tell McDaniels to slow down a bit?

[Rajmahal33]

Two questions:

1) Do we root against Cutler now, naturally hoping for him to fail? Seems like this would validate those of us who said to stick with Campbell.

2) If you are Campbell (and assuming you perform exceptionally this year), do you hold it against the team when it comes time to re-sign? You know really make them pay for lack of initial confidence?

[Stacks42]

The bears saved us from ourselves two years in a row.
Last year it would have been our 1st rounder and McIntosh for Briggs.
This year is would have been two 1st rounders and who know what else.

Why couldnt they step up to the plate and at least save us some $$ on the Haynesworth deal?

[GTripp0012]

The list of teams that deserve thank you notes from the Redskins once they win the division now include the Bears, the Bills, and the Titans.

[vaoutlaws2006]

thank goodness this is over.

[Skins4Eva]

I have a few questions?

1. Was our 6-2 start last year a product of Jason Campbell's ability to win games with his arm or our defense shutting opponents down and Clinton Portis running wild?

2. Teams dared Campbell to beat them. When teams decided to take Portis away with 8 and 9 man fronts, how many games did Jason put this team on his back and win?

3. Look at any footage of Campbell and Cutler...tell me who is a better quarterback and who you, as a defensive coordinator, would dread playing against?

4. Do you think teams in our division are happy or sad that we didn't get Cutler?

Now that this Cutler madness is over, let me sya, that Campbell is a man of character and class from the way he has handled this situation. However, unlike many of you on this board, I was hoping like hell that we pulled off this deal. The only thing about the deal that made me uneasy was the amount of picks that we would have given up. However, if you break the bank, you dont break it for a Defensive Tackle, you break it for a QB with unlimited potential, like Cutler. With that said, I hope JC shuts up all of the doubters but we all need to be reminded that he has given doubters reason to doubt his ability to be our franchise QB. I would love to see JC succeed because that means we as fans will have something to cheer for other than free agency signings. But what bothers me about what I am reading on this board is the refusal to acknowledge that Cutler is light years better than Campbell. We couldnt get a second round pick for him if we tried. Im all about optimism and will support the hell out of JC this year, however, I am not blinded by my own optimism that I am a little bummed that we could not get a 25 year old Pro Bowl QB. Cutler is definitely a little girl, but a talented little girl at that. Imagine Cutler with our defense and Portis. Wow. As for now...reality is JC is our starter and we should all support him as Skins fans.

[sancho2613]

don't know if this has already been posted? but apparently Redskins have a problem....
ProFootballTalk.com - Suddenly, Redskins Have A Problem

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by sancho2613

don't know if this has already been posted? but apparently Redskins have a problem....
ProFootballTalk.com - Suddenly, Redskins Have A Problem

I blame only myself for clicking on that and reading that garbage

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Skins4Eva

I have a few questions?

1. Was our 6-2 start last year a product of Jason Campbell's ability to win games with his arm or our defense shutting opponents down and Clinton Portis running wild?

I think it was combination of the following: Defense shutting down teams and in the offense having a strong running game that allowed for a passing game. In the offense, the key was having an offensive line that allowed for Portis to run and kept Campbell upright.

Originally Posted by Skins4Eva

I have a few questions?

2. Teams dared Campbell to beat them. When teams decided to take Portis away with 8 and 9 man fronts, how many games did Jason put this team on his back and win?

I honestly feel that teams were doing this from day 1. The Redskins offensive threat has always been the running game, and we were not known for being a big passing team. The problem during the 2-6 slide was that teams were shutting down Portis and our offensive line couldn't keep Campbell upright. Oh and we faced some nasty defenses too.

Originally Posted by Skins4Eva

I have a few questions?

3. Look at any footage of Campbell and Cutler...tell me who is a better quarterback and who you, as a defensive coordinator, would dread playing against?

I know this is going to sound like a cop out, but I would say whoever has the least protection. Cutler had a line that only gave up 12 sacks, while Campbell's line allowed him to get sacked 38 times.

Originally Posted by Skins4Eva

I have a few questions?

4. Do you think teams in our division are happy or sad that we didn't get Cutler?

I'm sure they would have been glad to have seen us trade for Cutler, which would have led to...us not addressing other areas of need in the draft, be without a 1st rounder next year, have Zorn on a short leash for the entire season, and cause a locker room problems.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Skins4Eva

I have a few questions?

1. Was our 6-2 start last year a product of Jason Campbell's ability to win games with his arm or our defense shutting opponents down and Clinton Portis running wild?

2. Teams dared Campbell to beat them. When teams decided to take Portis away with 8 and 9 man fronts, how many games did Jason put this team on his back and win?

3. Look at any footage of Campbell and Cutler...tell me who is a better quarterback and who you, as a defensive coordinator, would dread playing against?

4. Do you think teams in our division are happy or sad that we didn't get Cutler?

Now that this Cutler madness is over, let me sya, that Campbell is a man of character and class from the way he has handled this situation. However, unlike many of you on this board, I was hoping like hell that we pulled off this deal. The only thing about the deal that made me uneasy was the amount of picks that we would have given up. However, if you break the bank, you dont break it for a Defensive Tackle, you break it for a QB with unlimited potential, like Cutler. With that said, I hope JC shuts up all of the doubters but we all need to be reminded that he has given doubters reason to doubt his ability to be our franchise QB. I would love to see JC succeed because that means we as fans will have something to cheer for other than free agency signings. But what bothers me about what I am reading on this board is the refusal to acknowledge that Cutler is light years better than Campbell. We couldnt get a second round pick for him if we tried. Im all about optimism and will support the hell out of JC this year, however, I am not blinded by my own optimism that I am a little bummed that we could not get a 25 year old Pro Bowl QB. Cutler is definitely a little girl, but a talented little girl at that. Imagine Cutler with our defense and Portis. Wow. As for now...reality is JC is our starter and we should all support him as Skins fans.

Great post...I could not have said it better.

[TheSmurfs22]

Great post and well said! Glad that this is over!

[AnimateYYZ]

Originally Posted by Skins4Eva

I have a few questions?

1. Was our 6-2 start last year a product of Jason Campbell's ability to win games with his arm or our defense shutting opponents down and Clinton Portis running wild?

2. Teams dared Campbell to beat them. When teams decided to take Portis away with 8 and 9 man fronts, how many games did Jason put this team on his back and win?

3. Look at any footage of Campbell and Cutler...tell me who is a better quarterback and who you, as a defensive coordinator, would dread playing against?

4. Do you think teams in our division are happy or sad that we didn't get Cutler?

Now that this Cutler madness is over, let me sya, that Campbell is a man of character and class from the way he has handled this situation. However, unlike many of you on this board, I was hoping like hell that we pulled off this deal. The only thing about the deal that made me uneasy was the amount of picks that we would have given up. However, if you break the bank, you dont break it for a Defensive Tackle, you break it for a QB with unlimited potential, like Cutler. With that said, I hope JC shuts up all of the doubters but we all need to be reminded that he has given doubters reason to doubt his ability to be our franchise QB. I would love to see JC succeed because that means we as fans will have something to cheer for other than free agency signings. But what bothers me about what I am reading on this board is the refusal to acknowledge that Cutler is light years better than Campbell. We couldnt get a second round pick for him if we tried. Im all about optimism and will support the hell out of JC this year, however, I am not blinded by my own optimism that I am a little bummed that we could not get a 25 year old Pro Bowl QB. Cutler is definitely a little girl, but a talented little girl at that. Imagine Cutler with our defense and Portis. Wow. As for now...reality is JC is our starter and we should all support him as Skins fans.

When you say "unlimited potential" do you mean his schizophrenic behavior? i.e. putting his house on the market for sale and demanding a trade, and then saying "I didn't expect to be traded so soon". Or are you referring to the fact that he is diabetic, but drinks his ass off? Cutler has proven that he is only a spoiled brat. You judge him by "pro bowl" which tells me that you know nothing. Pro Bowl is a load of crap. Youre clearly not all about optimism if you were hoping this deal goes down.

[Stacks42]

I think everyone is overestimating what McDaniels can do. Everyone is acting like he chose both Brady and Cassel, no that was Pioli, who we can all agree knows how to draft and find fa talent.

We all know how an offensive coordinator with a great offense works out as a head coach, i.e. Norv Turner. I wish McDaniels the best, but it is not the smartest thing to alienate arguably your best player.