2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If you want to make a youtube cut-up of Nick Foles someday, I think people would be shocked at how good of a player he is compared to other guys like Tannehill, Cousins, Lindley, Jones etc. The way people talk about him as a late round pick, you wouldn't think he could make any throw with any amount of pressure on him. Except that he can.

The other thing I like about Foles is how he uses his feet effectively. He's got Tom Brady's athleticism (or lack of), but still moves effectively. And while this may be an effect of his offense, he managed to be one of the toughest players to sack in college football (and one of the ten best passers) despite crappy receivers and two freshman tackles who couldn't block anything.

Someone has already done it. Maybe I need to watch him again but I was honestly more impressed with Tannehill.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Remember last year when we thought Newton would definitely fall to 10? Yeah I'm starting to get skeptical of these guys that say Barkley will be around at 8. Lets just assume he's going around 2 or 3 via trade.

I think that would be a wise assumption. If Barkley comes out and either St. Louis or Minnesota are drafting second, then I think we'll have a shot at him via a trade up. It will cost a lot, so let's hope he's worth it if it happens.

Of course, we also need to be prepared for Shanny and Kyle to fall in love with a 32 year-old backup QB who has bounced around the the CFL for the last ten years. The thought of those two picking our next QB scares me as much as anything else related to our QB situation.

[GTripp0012]

I think it's pretty critical to get a pass catcher and a passer with the first two picks. That pass catcher can play any position. Yes, even tight end. Just the best available guy who can help the offense.

[celts32]

Assuming he comes out i think RG3 ends up going higher then Barkley. And RG3 is the guy I would target...

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by celts32

Assuming he comes out i think RG3 ends up going higher then Barkley. And RG3 is the guy I would target...

Not gonna happen! Barkley is NFL ready. RGIII will need more time to develop.

[GTripp0012]

If everyone comes out, I think there will be six first round picks at the QB position. I am against trading up because I think the Redskins will have their pick of two or three first round QBs wherever they select. I think the probability says that there will certainly be a great quarterback when we pick, we just need to get a staff in place that can identify him.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If everyone comes out, I think there will be six first round picks at the QB position. I am against trading up because I think the Redskins will have their pick of two or three first round QBs wherever they select. I think the probability says that there will certainly be a great quarterback when we pick, we just need to get a staff in place that can identify him.

I am telling you that Barkley and Luck are miles ahead of the pack. Infact, if you watch these guys they look like the best prospects in ten years.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I am telling you that Barkley and Luck are miles ahead of the pack. Infact, if you watch these guys they look like the best prospects in ten years.

Since 2004, at least.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I am telling you that Barkley and Luck are miles ahead of the pack. Infact, if you watch these guys they look like the best prospects in ten years.

I agree with you. The plan should be to explore any and all avenues to get one of these two QB's.

[GTripp0012]

Landry Jones and Kirk Cousins are very similar to me. Hard to put a round grade on them. They're both first round talents in terms of arm strength and ability to make throws with people around them, but they're third round decision makers.

I think Jones is really undervalued at this point, and would love to have him, but I think it's because he's so undervalued that he'll stay in school at this point.

[SmootSmack]

Don't forget about Ryan Tannehill. Whether you like him or not, if you want to talk about possible Redskins QBs the conversation has to include, perhaps even start with, Tannehill

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Don't forget about Ryan Tannehill. Whether you like him or not, if you want to talk about possible Redskins QBs the conversation has to include, perhaps even start with, Tannehill

I don't understand why you said that. Is it based on something you know from out of Redskins Park?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I don't understand why you said that. Is it based on something you know from out of Redskins Park?

Well it's not unusual for Smoot to get info from Ashburn but at the very least his style of play makes him an obvious candidate. Plus if he bust we can use him as a receiver.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I don't understand why you said that. Is it based on something you know from out of Redskins Park?

From various people I've talked to associated with the NFL in general (though not directly with the Redskins themselves, or I should say only with the Redskins) what I've gathered in regards to rookie QBs is

Definite interest in Luck, but not likely possible
Kinda so so on Barkley
Intrigued by RG III, spending a lot of time at his games
Comfortable with Landry Jones
Love Ryan Tannehill

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From various people I've talked to associated with the NFL in general (though not directly with the Redskins themselves, or I should say only with the Redskins) what I've gathered in regards to rookie QBs is

Definite interest in Luck, but not likely possible
Kinda so so on Barkley
Intrigued by RG III, spending a lot of time at his games
Comfortable with Landry Jones
Love Ryan Tannehill

Thanks for the reply. That is very interesting information. I think I'll look at some more film on Tannehill.