Gun Control Thread- Should we?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

If someone owns 1,000 firearms and never abuses them why should they be limited?

Wrong-headed thinking.

Who said they should?

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Who said they should?

You did:

FRPLG: ".....but guns are absolutely part of the problem. Or more accurately the fact that we own so many guns in this country is an indicator of a deeper problem that is caused by many different things. But the pro-gun crowd seems to want to ignore the "fact" that we own TOO MANY guns in this country. Perhaps gun control isn't the answer to effectively reducing them but we do need to reduce them."

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

You did:

FRPLG: ".....but guns are absolutely part of the problem. Or more accurately the fact that we own so many guns in this country is an indicator of a deeper problem that is caused by many different things. But the pro-gun crowd seems to want to ignore the "fact" that we own TOO MANY guns in this country. Perhaps gun control isn't the answer to effectively reducing them but we do need to reduce them."

Now you're making stuff up. Nowhere did I say limit them for a person. Nowhere. Pro gunners have this reflexive habit about them it seems. Every discussion of violence and guns gets them super defensive. Perhaps discussing and creating positive discourse would be more helpful than just assuming that if someone doesn't think guns are the greatest they must think we should outlaw them.

Again...our society has an astonishing amount of guns. I believe this is an indicator that deserves attention. What does it indicate? Not totally sure. I'm less concerned about how easy it is to get guns. I'm more concerned that it is so prevalent.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Now you're making stuff up. Nowhere did I say limit them for a person. Nowhere. Pro gunners have this reflexive habit about them it seems. Every discussion of violence and guns gets them super defensive. Perhaps discussing and creating positive discourse would be more helpful than just assuming that if someone doesn't think guns are the greatest they must think we should outlaw them.

Again...our society has an astonishing amount of guns. I believe this is an indicator that deserves attention. What does it indicate? Not totally sure. I'm less concerned about how easy it is to get guns. I'm more concerned that it is so prevalent.

You say there are too many but you dont explain what that means.
You say that there is too much.
How can you expect that not to be taken as per person?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

You did:

FRPLG: ".....but guns are absolutely part of the problem. Or more accurately the fact that we own so many guns in this country is an indicator of a deeper problem that is caused by many different things. But the pro-gun crowd seems to want to ignore the "fact" that we own TOO MANY guns in this country. Perhaps gun control isn't the answer to effectively reducing them but we do need to reduce them."

Too many guns. I have a buddy who has probably 20 to 30 guns which he and his father have collected over the years. Those guns are in a safe and will not harm a single person. The gang banger who has one gun has one too many so whats the correct number?

[Alvin Walton]

Not to mention that Conneticut already had an assault weapons ban and also some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation.
Didnt seem to matter did it?

[RedskinRat]

In support of skinsguy's point I would cite the fact that just about every household in Switzerland has a gun, it has one of the highest rates of gun ownership (almost 50%) due to their use of citizens as a standing militia. However their gun crime is so low they don't even keep records on it.

[RedskinRat]

If I use my Glock to chase off intruders I have used it defensively. No one has been killed.

[NC_Skins]

Chinese teenager kills 8 people, wounds 5 in knife attack - Yahoo! News


LETS REGULATE KNIVES!!

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Chinese teenager kills 8 people, wounds 5 in knife attack - Yahoo! News


LETS REGULATE KNIVES!!

Fists are next.

Hands and feet kill twice as many people per year than "assault weapons" do.
FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

[RedskinRat]

That's what I figured. More histrionics. This needs to be a serious, rational discussion.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

That's what I figured. More histrionics. This needs to be a serious, rational discussion.

Then provide some yourself. No one is stopping you.

[punch it in]

Anyone watching CNN right now. Piers Morgan - i have never seen two people argue and insult each other like this. Its about gun control btw.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Anyone watching CNN right now. Piers Morgan - i have never seen two people argue and insult each other like this. Its about gun control btw.

Piers Morgan really can be a POS. Not Bill Maher level, but a real dick. Its like Rush or Bill, from the other side.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Exactly!
My guns have only one purpose too, to make holes in paper at 100 and 50 yards. To say that their only purpose is to kill is pretty foolish.

Missing the point really. Maybe we need to talk about how guns make it easier to kill than other weapons. Its quicker, more painless and efficient. You are pressing a trigger from yards away...kinda makes it easier to desensitize yourself.

It's a combination of capacity and easy of doing significant harm.

Why not make holes in paper using an air rifle or something? Why does it have to be bullets? If your answer is because I can, feels good, murica, etc. then I can't talk to you.