Redskins Trademark cancelled

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by kct1975

Wow!

I agree that Danny should sue!

Just for the record, after all of the debate I have heard and read, I feel that I too am in the third camp. I too do not want to see the team name changed, and I don't really see the name as racist or derogatory, but I do agree that there is way too much bad press, and that the name will have to change at some point in the near future.

My only hope is that the team can retain the colors and theme.

As for a replacement name, I would vote for...

Washington Warriors

Also, whether or not the name is changed, I would suggest that the team go back to the logo that was used in the '60's, and during the 70th Anniversary season....



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That helmet is pretty sweet, even equal to our curent one. But if the name does change, we need to move completely away from any Native American theme. It might take 10 years, or 20, or 50, but eventually the same type of people as those for the name-change now would start arguing that Native American mascots dehumanize them, and we'd have to put up with this crap all over again.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

That helmet is pretty sweet, even equal to our curent one. But if the name does change, we need to move completely away from any Native American theme. It might take 10 years, or 20, or 50, but eventually the same type of people as those for the name-change now would start arguing that Native American mascots dehumanize them, and we'd have to put up with this crap all over again.

That's already happening with other teams, just to a quieter degree than what we're seeing. As I think has been stated in this thread, the Redskins are basically just the prime target/first domino.
My guess is that if and when we do change it will be pretty much whole sale with only the team colors staying the same. Like Alvin Walton said, the organization will do everything they can to make the new name/logo non-controversial, which ironically will make it controversial to many current fans.

I just wish the name Washington Generals wasn't so tainted because of the Harlem Globetrotters, because I feel like that would be a decent name.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

That's already happening with other teams, just to a quieter degree than what we're seeing. As I think has been stated in this thread, the Redskins are basically just the prime target/first domino.
My guess is that if and when we do change it will be pretty much whole sale with only the team colors staying the same. Like Alvin Walton said, the organization will do everything they can to make the new name/logo non-controversial, which ironically will make it controversial to many current fans.

I just wish the name Washington Generals wasn't so tainted because of the Harlem Globetrotters, because I feel like that would be a decent name.

Generals is a solid name. Not sure how well that would go with the burgundy and gold.

I still like the idea of Washington FC. Don't know what we'd do for a logo, though.

If the name does change, please, please, please, no animal for a name. That would be awful.

[tshile]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I agree about the hypocrisy coming from the change-the-name camp. It is easy to find outraged netizens who otherwise couldn't give a fig about Indians.

But there is hypocrisy in the keep-the-name camp, too. Some Skins fans claim that the name honors Indians, yet these same people show no more concern for the real plight of real Indians than the change-the-name hypocrites. If Skins fans don't truly honor Indians, what right do they have to support keeping the name for the sake of honoring Indians?

Sadly there is a lot of hypocrisy on both sides.

To a point.

The problem with that argument is that the keep-the-name camp isn't trying to force something on others against their will.

As for the honoring argument, that goes for both sides. The only meaningful thing that comes from it is that majority of people in the USA do not care enough about the issues of the Native American people to actually do something meaningful about that. It'd be nice if that's what this all would pivot to, the two camps might actually start finding some things to agree on

At least the redskins have started a charity. What has Costas, Munson, et al done?

[Hog1]

As Scott VP has gone on the record. Costas and his......kind have been doing this gig for 88+ years...more or less. Is it not interesting they started caring about the racist nature of the B & G name in the last 2 years. Were they not ......aghast at the name for lo' these many years? If so, why voice their opinion when it became....fashionable
.....Weak

[Alvin Walton]

Been done already.

New Jersey Generals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[SmootSmack]

How about the old USFL team, The Federals? Bring that name back

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How about the old USFL team, The Federals? Bring that name back

If we change, is the feeling we move away from Indians reference all together? I rather keep it indian related.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If we change, is the feeling we move away from Indians reference all together? I rather keep it indian related.

I have no idea

[mlmdub130]

Interesting...

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/55195...=Entertainment

Sooo dressing up as a Native American is also now offensive. Seriously???

[Chico23231]

Also, is the logo ok with these liberal elitist white people or are they stating thats racist too?

This is happening too:

State lawmakers ready to fight Congress over Washington Redskins name change | WTVR.com

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Also, is the logo ok with these liberal elitist white people or are they stating thats racist too?

I would think more people would be bothered by the logo than the name. But who knows. Anyone can be offended about anything

[tshile]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Also, is the logo ok with these liberal elitist white people or are they stating thats racist too?

This is happening too:

State lawmakers ready to fight Congress over Washington Redskins name change | WTVR.com

yay!

more reason to believe the new stadium will be in VA

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Also, is the logo ok with these liberal elitist white people or are they stating thats racist too?

This is happening too:

State lawmakers ready to fight Congress over Washington Redskins name change | WTVR.com

I don't know about white liberals but I heard Amanda Blackhorse, an Indian, say on NPR that in her opinion the logo was worse than the name.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I don't know about white liberals but I heard Amanda Blackhorse, an Indian, say on NPR that in her opinion the logo was worse than the name.

She really said that?!?! That's completely absurd. Not even taking into account the actual history of how the logo was created, the bottom line is that's it's ultimately just a picture of a guy. As a white guy should I be offended by the Patriots' logo, or old Bucs', or the Vikings', and so on...