Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

If Cousins plays well/keeps us competitive this season, do you think the Skins trade Cousins in the off season

If he does that , then why trade him ,trade the other one .

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Giantone

If he does that , then why trade him ,trade the other one .

To let RG3 play out his contract and draft a QB? I dunno. I obviously know nothing about trade and draft dynamics but neither have the Skins in the past. Lol

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

To let RG3 play out his contract and draft a QB? I dunno. I obviously know nothing about trade and draft dynamics but neither have the Skins in the past. Lol

*Crawls up in ball*
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath

[CRedskinsRule]

I really wanted to make RG3 For Me and KC Leads DC bumper stickers and really profit off the media drivel!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

*Crawls up in ball*
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath
This r not Gus v Heath

LOL , yet !

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL , yet !

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Nope , and if he does he won't be any good . I like Bob but he dislocated it, he rushed back from the knee injury and look what happen .Let him heal !

His injury is not as serious as people want to make it out to be. Chill, his injury is the equivalent of shooting a jump shot and landing on someone's foot. your ankle rolls. HE will be in a cast 10 days.

[ethat001]

It's way too early to tell if Cousins is the answer. But on paper -- our team is actually pretty good, and we can theoretically have a chance at playoffs and beyond. We have a top 5 running back / running game, two probowl WRs (and decent WR depth), a top-tier TE, and currently our defense looks legit against inferior talent.

We were just lacking good QB play -- to get the ball into our playmakers' hands. IF we have that, I see no reason for us to contend, and THIS year. We're not the Seahawks/Denver/Patriots, but we can certainly go far in our division.. All depends on Cousins, but if he plays just average, it shouldn't be hard to do okay this year.

Not even mentioning our improved return game, our Oline backups who could challenge starters (Moses/S.Long), Merriweather's return, Cofield coming back, ?P.Thomas, etc.


Also got to hand it to Gruden so far. Early to tell, but early take on his decisions to date have been pretty good. (1) Keep Cousins & also McCoy, (2) NOT drafting MLB but relying on K.Robinson instead, (3) Keeping Haslett (so far so good), (4) FA: Hatcher/Djax/A.Roberts - all good so far with reasonable cap hits, (5) FA - avoiding big splashes & getting depth like A.Davis / etc on special teams & R.Clark as a leader so far, (6) Tress Way, (7) Drafting R.Grant (and Murphy, Breeland & Moses may prove to be good pickups)... It just seems like with our injuries, our depth is good enough to keep us in contention, and prior years we sucked if one or two people went out.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I know about the years past,just meant this year
But since you bring it up Cleveland was another bad team that he beat
Last year he was not very good and he did not win a game
If Jacksonville would have had hpustons pass rush I'm sure that game would have been a different story
Anyway all I was saying is it's way too early to draw any conclusions on Capt. Kirk or this team yet although we should be two and oh with either quarterback

I love how every team we beat with Cousins is a bad team, it's just the Jags, Cleveland in 2012 was another bad team, etc. But Houston, one of the worst teams last season, that we lost with Griffin as our QB, is a "different story"?

I hope Griffin turns it around, but the spin here is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Lotus

Don't forget:

Cleveland in 2012 was not in relief, he started that game.

In 2012 he came in relief against Atlanta and looked poor.

No, don't forget there's more to Cousins' body of work than just "one game in relief". That was my point. Some good, some bad. Like with Griffin.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I love how every team we beat with Cousins is a bad team, it's just the Jags, Cleveland in 2012 was another bad team, etc. But Houston, one of the worst teams last season, that we lost with Griffin as our QB, is a "different story"?

I hope Griffin turns it around, but the spin here is ridiculous.


No, don't forget there's more to Cousins' body of work than just "one game in relief". That was my point. Some good, some bad. Like with Griffin.

Of course there is more to Cousins body of work than the game I mentioned. If you read my previous remark in context, you'll see that I was responding to a specific statement from another post.

So let's go to that body of work and look at career numbers for Cap'n Kirk:
9 games
74.3 QBR
57.6% completions
6.7 ypa
10 / 10 TDs/INT

Last year Cousins' interception % of 4.5 was one of the worst in the league. For comparison, Eli Manning's was 4.9% and he led the league in picks.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Of course there is more to Cousins body of work than the game I mentioned. If you read my previous remark in context, you'll see that I was responding to a specific statement from another post.

So let's go to that body of work and look at career numbers for Cap'n Kirk:
9 games
74.3 QBR
57.6% completions
6.7 ypa
10 / 10 TDs/INT

Last year Cousins' interception % of 4.5 was one of the worst in the league. For comparison, Eli Manning's was 4.9% and he led the league in picks.

According to ESPN RGIII QBR in in 2013 was 40.1
In 2014 it was 36.1

[Evilgrin]

This team isn't that great on paper.... quite a few teams with better rosters.

[Chico23231]

its a new year, new coaching staff and the "what have you done lately" is more important. I think the team confidence is high coming off the win and I think the offense believes in Cousins and RG3. We are lucky to have 2 young QB who are solid. I think if you ask the Philly coaches who are game planning, they can see alot of guys on the skins offense who can hurt you. Cousins, Grant, and Niles Paul all are depths guys who put a lot of good things on film last week. I think the Eagles are going to have their hands full.

[over the mountain]

Griffin mostly did a good job anticipating where pressure was coming from, coaches say, and making adjustments. It’s an area Cousins is still adapting to as one sack revealed Sunday when the Jaguars sent an overload to the Redskins’ right. Cousins didn’t see it, was sacked and the Redskins were taken out of field-goal range. Coaches say Cousins must improve here, but for the most part they feel that even if this is the case he usually knows where to go and what to do. It'll be a key against Philadelphia on Sunday.


How Kirk Cousins differs from RG III - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

a good write up by Keim of what cousins and rg3 do well and differently. nothing unknown to anyone here but i did quote the top paragraph bc this is the 2nd time i have heard RG3 does well with pre-snap reads and cousins needs to improve. when i see cousins, i see him calling out the mike and being a lot more vocal at the line pre-snap vs RG3 who seems to never shift protection and seems oblivious (sometimes) to clear blitzes.

[Evilgrin]

I dunno Keim knows his stuff pretty well.