McCoy to Start Against Indy

[SmootSmack]

Gannon and Green were before Snyder

Jay likes both Kirk and Colt

Who knows why people talk off record. Everyone has their own reasons.

[Rotten1980]

Well, poop. Really hard to see us move on from RG, but I'll cheer just as hard for Colt this Sunday. He comes across as a genuinely good kid, very humble. God knows we're due for some good fortune and maybe Colt will be it, arm strength isn't everything lol. Maybe he's the next Chad Pennington??

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think that he feels Kirk needs to sit and learn right now and start fresh with him next off season.

I totally get your point though.

I like this move. While McCoy is not the long term answer, he might be the best prepared at this time (on this roster) to run the offense the way it is supposed to be run. Instead of seeing RGIII call Gruden's play in the huddle and panic during the play and abandon ship. The offense really just needs a Qb to run the offense correctly and lead by example. He does not need to carry the offense or try to win it himself.
This could be the best teaching tool for everyone. Plus if McCoy can make the offense work, which is not not a guarantee, it will calm down the frustrations the open receivers have.
If Cousins and RGIII can take something away from this time, learn something and improve, that is what matters most. Not throwing them in unprepared and get the snot kicked out to them (RGIII) or forcing bad throws (Cousins). That is not evaluating. That is watching a unprepared QB implode.

[skinsfaninok]

Trent green was before DS but I see what your saying. It's been a sad train wreck of an organization since Dan took over. Honestly I don't see it changing

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Ok now I'm totes lost. Jay likes Kirk (longterm?) but will start Colt for now? That doesn't make sense. If Kirk is the next best hope, wouldn't you want him to get the reps and time?



Maybe Jay doesn't know what the hell he's doing...

Need to win games. Rite now Colt is the guy. Doesnt mean he will be forever.


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[Bangee7]

the move had to be made, imo.

every time I think back to that photo analysis against Tampa, the one where 5 receivers were open and none got the ball....wow, that was the turning point for me.

he's got a long way to go, but on the bright side, the 'skins usually have a long off season!

Here's hoping Colt can help find a few wins down the stretch.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Here's a sad stat:

From Rypien to Griffin, Redskins have started 24 quarterbacks since 1993 | Fox News

That is one ugly list of guys who had seen better days and other team's throwaways.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Daseal

The OL excuse is greatly exagurated. Griffin at times had immediate pressure, and made rushed mistakes. I also saw him hold the ball multiple times for 4-6 seconds. In the NFL, that's all you get even with a good line. The line was giving AlfMo some running room. Our line won't be confused for the top half of the league, but they're more than capable of giving him time to throw to his wide open WRs he's missing. RG3 is done. Time to give it up.

I know don't know if Cooley's film breakdown is the gospel or not but it is the only one I've heard that explains his conclusions with plays from the game.

Cooley said 4 of the 6 sacks against San Fran were on the qb and 2 were on the line.

I agree the line is an easy target when the qb goes down but the criticism isn't always fair.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I know don't know if Cooley's film breakdown is the gospel or not but it is the only one I've heard that explains his conclusions with plays from the game.

Cooley said 4 of the 6 sacks against San Fran were on the qb and 2 were on the line.

I agree the line is an easy target when the qb goes down but the criticism isn't always fair.

There's definitely some people in denial here that the O-line may not be as awful as everyone thinks. There are obvious issues that need to be addressed during the off-season, (i.e Polumbus, Chester) but I think it's easier for people to come to terms with, "we have no depth at O-line and everyone sucks" than it is to deal with "we screwed ourselves to make a deal for a franchise QB who may or may not be a bust"

[Hog1]

Something I heard brought by Doc And Bmitch. I really was not to happy with benching Robert and not finding out if he can play with these remaining games.
But the guys pointed out that there is whole roster of players who train and work they're ass off that do it to win, campaign for a spot, make incentives, bonus, etc.....to win!
And if Robert stays in.....JG will lose the locker room as a result

[Rotten1980]

Or it could be Gruden was losing the locker room already, and feels like he needed to divert attention. It would be easier to make the case if the rest of his group looked sharp and well prepared. They never did though regardless of QB.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I know don't know if Cooley's film breakdown is the gospel or not but it is the only one I've heard that explains his conclusions with plays from the game.

Cooley said 4 of the 6 sacks against San Fran were on the qb and 2 were on the line.

I agree the line is an easy target when the qb goes down but the criticism isn't always fair.

Someone posted stats that showed that Robert was sacked at a rate that was about four times greater than the sack rates of the other two QB's. That would seem to add weight to your argument.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I know don't know if Cooley's film breakdown is the gospel or not but it is the only one I've heard that explains his conclusions with plays from the game.

Cooley said 4 of the 6 sacks against San Fran were on the qb and 2 were on the line.

I agree the line is an easy target when the qb goes down but the criticism isn't always fair.

He's not the only one. Just about everyone that breaks down the film (Cosell and um, RG3's own coaches the last 2 years) can plainly see that he is responsible for most of the sacks he takes. And when teams know you can't read Defenses and hold onto the ball too long, they just ramp up the pressure even more. Good QBs punish the blitz and therefore don't get blitzed as much. See also: Jason Campbell and Todd Collins. Same O-line looked totally different blocking for both QBs.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Rotten1980

Or it could be Gruden was losing the locker room already, and feels like he needed to divert attention. It would be easier to make the case if the rest of his group looked sharp and well prepared. They never did though regardless of QB.

Those wide open Receivers looked pretty sharp. If RG3 was playing at even a basic level of competency, the team and coaching staff would probably be willing to stick it out with him. But, he's "not even close" as Gruden himself said.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Something I heard brought by Doc And Bmitch. I really was not to happy with benching Robert and not finding out if he can play with these remaining games.

But the guys pointed out that there is whole roster of players who train and work they're ass off that do it to win, campaign for a spot, make incentives, bonus, etc.....to win!

And if Robert stays in.....JG will lose the locker room as a result

Handfuls of posters on this board have been saying that same thing for days.


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