Redskins trade for Alex Smith

metalskins · 01-31-2018, 09:25 AM

Alex Smith is clearly the best QB the Redskins could've picked up in this offseason. No way Kirk was signing a LTD with us. Just get over that fact. Nobody likes the idea of giving up Kendall Fuller - I sure don't, but do you really think KC was willing to give up Alex Smith for a ham sandwich? (Well, maybe Andy Reid would've taken the ham sandwich as well!)

skinsfaninok · 01-31-2018, 09:30 AM

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Alex Smith is clearly the best QB the Redskins could've picked up in this offseason. No way Kirk was signing a LTD with us. Just get over that fact. Nobody likes the idea of giving up Kendall Fuller - I sure don't, but do you really think KC was willing to give up Alex Smith for a ham sandwich? (Well, maybe Andy Reid would've taken the ham sandwich as well!)

Yep, I love the move I don't see why anyone would be against this.. 3rd round pick but we will get a pick back when kirk walks.

skinsfan69 · 01-31-2018, 10:03 AM

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Just remember the whole world said we got robbed of the RG3 trade too and the Rams ended up getting basically nothing for years until Mcvay came. We'll see what happens, if Smith leads us to the playoffs next yr all will be forgotten

We did not get better with this trade.

skinsfaninok · 01-31-2018, 10:04 AM

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We did not get better with this trade.

We will see man, time will tell. If he wins us games and playoff games we will be happy

KI Skins Fan · 01-31-2018, 10:08 AM

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We did not get better with this trade.

So what? We didn't get appreciably worse, either. Kirk was leaving. We needed a QB. Colt was/is not the answer. We had competition for Smith, so we had to pay more. End of story.

SkinzWin · 01-31-2018, 10:55 AM

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We did not get better with this trade.

But we most likely would have been worse without it. You aren’t going to get someone that can match Smith’s production next year without breaking the bank, or shipping off alllllll your draft pics to move up, and a rookie may not even pan out.

This was a safe play. For all of you who touts Cousins as being so superior to Smith, look at where it really counts: red zone and 4th quarter. Cousins has never been good either place. So although he puts up great stats between the 20s in the first 3 quarters, he doesn’t make it count when it matters most.

hutch17 · 01-31-2018, 09:43 AM

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I like Alex Smith as a player but he is not the future at QB for the Skins. I would not be a bit surprised if the Skins draft our QB of the future in the 1st or 2nd Round of this years draft. Smith will probably be our starter for two years while an apprentice studies under him.

Concerning the trade values: If we trade a 3rd Rounder to KC and pick up a 3rd Round compensatory pick for losing KC, isn't that a wash on the picks? So we only gave up Kendall Fuller in trade for Smith. How is that a bad trade?

Time value of money (pick) makes a 2018 3rd > 2019 3rd

not insanely but still not equal.

All that being said I was pissed about this last night but have since come around. I think that Smith will be better in Jay's system than KC was and this gives us freedom in the draft (my hope is move back 6-8 spots pick up another 2nd and draft Lamar Jackson to groom) and plenty of money to resign Breeland. and or Zach Brown. Breeland is equal to fuller if not better and we are DEEP at CB.

Chico23231 · 01-31-2018, 09:46 AM

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Time value of money (pick) makes a 2018 3rd > 2019 3rd

not insanely but still not equal.

All that being said I was pissed about this last night but have since come around. I think that Smith will be better in Jay's system than KC was and this gives us freedom in the draft (my hope is move back 6-8 spots pick up another 2nd and draft Lamar Jackson to groom) and plenty of money to resign Breeland. and or Zach Brown. Breeland is equal to fuller if not better and we are DEEP at CB.

No he isn't and its not close.

metalskins · 01-31-2018, 09:52 AM

I'm dumb when it comes to how guaranteed money affects the cap, but that being said, does the deal with Alex Smith free up money to possibly re-sign guys like Zach Brown?

skinsfaninok · 01-31-2018, 09:53 AM

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I'm dumb when it comes to how guaranteed money affects the cap, but that being said, does the deal with Alex Smith free up money to possibly re-sign guys like Zach Brown?

I'm no cap expert but I did see Albert Breer say yes it helps and they can go get a couple guys in FA now

BaltimoreSkins · 01-31-2018, 09:55 AM

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I'm dumb when it comes to how guaranteed money affects the cap, but that being said, does the deal with Alex Smith free up money to possibly re-sign guys like Zach Brown?

It says 71 mil guaranteed but does that mean fully? We won't know until March 14th. It will be less cap space than what we would have had to sign KC for however.

hutch17 · 01-31-2018, 09:54 AM

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No he isn't and its not close.

your trying to say that a slot CB as good as he was this year who had one good year is better than a four year starting outside CB? You are delusional and in shock.

Chico23231 · 01-31-2018, 10:00 AM

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your trying to say that a slot CB as good as he was this year who had one good year is better than a four year starting outside CB? You are delusional and in shock.

Not only Im I saying that, Im also saying his pedigree and potential is probowler. He showed this year why he was considered a 1st round talent coming out of Va Tech. Guy is a physical baller.

Fuller is already a better player than Breeland. Also, Breeland isn't a good locker room dude, he has an attitude issue.

BaltimoreSkins · 01-31-2018, 10:05 AM

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Time value of money (pick) makes a 2018 3rd > 2019 3rd

not insanely but still not equal.

All that being said I was pissed about this last night but have since come around. I think that Smith will be better in Jay's system than KC was and this gives us freedom in the draft (my hope is move back 6-8 spots pick up another 2nd and draft Lamar Jackson to groom) and plenty of money to resign Breeland. and or Zach Brown. Breeland is equal to fuller if not better and we are DEEP at CB.

Don't forget we will only get that 2019 3rd rounder if we don't sign FA that end up negating it in the off season. There is a chance we might not get it.

MTK · 01-31-2018, 07:46 AM

A few thoughts here:

- Cousins was as good as gone so what did you prefer to Smith? Teddy B? Bradford? McCoy? Cousins also wasn't taking $23.5M per year.

- Smith is 33, no question he's still got some good years left in the tank, I'd say at least 2-3 which is enough to get us to the next option.

- With a compensatory pick coming back from Cousins leaving it's essentially Fuller for Smith. I love Fuller but I wouldn't have said trading him was a deal breaker.

- KC wasn't going to let him go for a ham sandwich. He was still under contract and no doubt several teams were very interested.

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01-31-2018, 09:25 AM	#1
metalskins The Starter Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 1,464	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith Alex Smith is clearly the best QB the Redskins could've picked up in this offseason. No way Kirk was signing a LTD with us. Just get over that fact. Nobody likes the idea of giving up Kendall Fuller - I sure don't, but do you really think KC was willing to give up Alex Smith for a ham sandwich? (Well, maybe Andy Reid would've taken the ham sandwich as well!) __________________ Reserved for a witty signature.

01-31-2018, 09:52 AM	#9
metalskins The Starter Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 1,464	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith I'm dumb when it comes to how guaranteed money affects the cap, but that being said, does the deal with Alex Smith free up money to possibly re-sign guys like Zach Brown? __________________ Reserved for a witty signature.

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MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,049	Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith A few thoughts here: - Cousins was as good as gone so what did you prefer to Smith? Teddy B? Bradford? McCoy? Cousins also wasn't taking $23.5M per year. - Smith is 33, no question he's still got some good years left in the tank, I'd say at least 2-3 which is enough to get us to the next option. - With a compensatory pick coming back from Cousins leaving it's essentially Fuller for Smith. I love Fuller but I wouldn't have said trading him was a deal breaker. - KC wasn't going to let him go for a ham sandwich. He was still under contract and no doubt several teams were very interested. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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