Coaching and Front Office Changes

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I want to play devil's advocate here. What if KOC disagree with Riveria's coaching/teaching strategies in general? Should Riveria still keep KOC, just for sake of the continuity?

No, I'm going on the assumption that RR wanted to bring in his own guy which is Norv's son.

Anyhow it looks like Scott Turner has certainly paid his dues as he's been an assistant since 2005.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I want to play devil's advocate here. What if KOC disagree with Riveria's coaching/teaching strategies in general? Should Riveria still keep KOC, just for sake of the continuity?

You can play devil's advocate, I am a KOC fan and since Scott Turner is now our offensive coordinator I am now a Turner fan too.

But the bottom line is this:

Ron Rivera needs a coaching staff that will reinforce everything he teaches. He has to be in cohesion with his assistants because the players need to hear the same message from any coach no matter who it is. If KOC taught Haskins something that Rivera didn't agree with, it could cause setbacks in his development. That's why I'm not opposed to KOC leaving. The coaching staff has to have a unified philosophy.

[njant]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I want to play devil's advocate here. What if KOC disagree with Riveria's coaching/teaching strategies in general? Should Riveria still keep KOC, just for sake of the continuity?

guys even thou koc seemed good we don,t know how good or bad he was , if he was that darn good at the beginning then why didn,t he call plays when gruden was here ,lets see what turner does because are off. stunk for many reasons and play calling was one of it i was not impressed with koc

[mooby]

I feel bad it didn't work out with KOC but I'm positive he'll be fine elsewhere.

At this point even if you don't like Scott Turner all we can do is hope Rivera is making the right moves.

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by mooby

I feel bad it didn't work out with KOC but I'm positive he'll be fine elsewhere.

At this point even if you don't like Scott Turner all we can do is hope Rivera is making the right moves.

I still feel like it's going to end up with KOC in Cleveland with McDaniels and when this is all said and done it will be a mutual split. My guess is that the hire of Turner was made possible today be it becoming clear that the McDaniels/KOC combo wasn't going to be in NY.

[Ruhskins]

Someone please tell me of a situation where a new head coach hired a bunch of assistants that had no previous ties whatsoever to him.

People need to get over these hires being from the Panthers or other ties to Rivera. And see what happens.

As some media folks have said on Twitter, remember this is a team that went 3-13.

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[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Someone please tell me of a situation where a new head coach hired a bunch of assistants that had no previous ties whatsoever to him.

People need to get over these hires being from the Panthers or other ties to Rivera. And see what happens.

As some media folks have said on Twitter, remember this is a team that went 3-13.

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Exactly, pay close attention to any HC change around the league and you’ll see every HC does the same thing. They bring in their guys. Guys they know and trust so they can hit the ground running. Haven’t we seen it enough here to know this is what happens? Yet every time people seem thrown off by it. I don’t get it.



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[Meks]

i think the turner hire possibly has to do with a favor in scheme on offense. Not just the person.

[MTK]

KOC clearly wants to move on, more power to him. Let’s stop acting like it’s only a team decision.


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[MTK]

In the end it's silly to lament the loss of a guy like KOC, or hell even if Schaffer leaves who cares. Do we want Rivera in charge or not?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

In the end it's silly to lament the loss of a guy like KOC, or hell even if Schaffer leaves who cares. Do we want Rivera in charge or not?

This is the bottomline.

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[SunnySide]

I do want to keep Kyle Smith and Alex Santos. Weve heard enough good things about them over the years.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I do want to keep Kyle Smith and Alex Santos. Weve heard enough good things about them over the years.

JP Findlay mentioned that he believes Doug, Kyle, and Santos are safe for now.

While Schaffer was good and I wanted him to stay, he was also very close to Allen. I think that may be have been his undoing.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

JP Findlay mentioned that he believes Doug, Kyle, and Santos are safe for now.

While Schaffer was good and I wanted him to stay, he was also very close to Allen. I think that may be have been his undoing.

Yeah, i listened to that too. I am curious whether, if they bring in someone in after the draft, if it would be to REPLACE any of those 3 or to be a team president-type whom the 3 of them would report to.

I don't see any reason why Doug has a job here based on anything he's done in the front office. He seems to be resting on his laurels and I don't like that. Could care less about Santos one way or the other. Really impressed with everything Kyle Smith has been able to do IN SPITE of Allen and Snyder's meddling, so I hope that, if we bring someone in, we can somehow keep Kyle.

[JoeRedskin]

I am seeing reports that Scott Turner has been hired as the OC.

Also, the Giants may be looking at Jason Garrett for their OC.