How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

skinsfaninok · 10-04-2020, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

NFL.com running a story that Haskins is on a short leash and Skins want to take advantage of their next five games after the Ravens.

Yeah they just talked about it on Fox also

Chico23231 · 10-04-2020, 11:51 AM

Like Cooley said, Ron watched the tape after the browns game and saw how well the defense play and thought the same thing many did, Skins should have won that game. And then he witnessed how bad the cowboys, Eagles and giants played last week.

He senses an opportunity...

I think Kyle Allen has been put “on call”

BaltimoreSkins · 10-04-2020, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Like Cooley said, Ron watched the tape after the browns game and saw how well the defense play and thought the same thing many did, Skins should have won that game. And then he witnessed how bad the cowboys, Eagles and giants played last week.

He senses an opportunity...

I think Kyle Allen has been put “on call”

In the Browns game Haskins spotted the Browns 20 points. Tough to win when you are in that hole. I do think Haskins needs to be given more time and reps to show progress but football is a "window is now" league. Weak division chance for playoff exposure? Hard to argue with that.

Chico23231 · 10-04-2020, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

In the Browns game Haskins spotted the Browns 20 points. Tough to win when you are in that hole. I do think Haskins needs to be given more time and reps to show progress but football is a "window is now" league. Weak division chance for playoff exposure? Hard to argue with that.

It’s hard to ignore for sure when it comes to the status of division

skinsfan69 · 10-04-2020, 12:51 PM

haskins sucks so bad that ron has just about seen enough.

BaltimoreSkins · 10-04-2020, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

haskins sucks so bad that ron has just about seen enough.

He is playing so poorly right now even Vinny Ceratto is not impressed

Warthog · 10-04-2020, 03:19 PM

What’s surprised me is how our defense is getting pushed around - every game.

Also, the offensive play-calling could be better. The play calling often see’s the offense at Third and long early in the game. With our OL this puts Haskins in a tough spot.

Haskins only has a #2 TE with Logan Thomas. No one else has showed up at #1 TE. This is what happens when you spend no big FA, nor good draft picks for TE. WR - there is nothing at WR except for McLaurin. Steve Sims, Jr is totally invisible. Time to try someone else. Cam Sims is trying to move up. The teams WR # 2 has been Gibson at RB. Good but not optimum for Haskins.

I think that the team will draft another QB next year with their first pick. Then they will have to to spend draft picks on the OL. The OL is weak and has little depth. Gibson is really good.

This team is two years from being competitive. I think Rivera wanted to save his cap money until he evaluated what he has. Unfortunately, by being quiet in FA, there is barely enough talent to see what this team is about. I also don’t like RR idea of just finishing the game quickly, versus working the two minute drill. Running the last minute two minute drill would help Haskins development, as well as evaluating him further. I honestly wonder if RR would do this if he wasn’t in chemo. I think that is part of it.

Haskins may become a decent QB, and in the fourth qtr he spread the ball around well. But I doubt it will be with this team. I see some good things with him, even in a blowout with the Ravens. He’s essentially in his rookie season. Cam Sims is trying to move Steve Sims out of his position. Inman is ok, but not super impressive. McLaurin is going to be GREAT!

I think they’ll play Haskins for at least another 5-7 games, if he continues to play well. If he has another 3 INT game then Allen will come in. In the current NFL, not being a scrambler is a BIG HANDICAP. He still could be more accurate. He can’t take 18 yard sacks.

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davy · 10-04-2020, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Warthog

What’s surprised me is how our defense is getting pushed around - every game.

Also, the offensive play-calling could be better. The play calling often see’s the offense at Third and long early in the game. With our OL this puts Haskins in a tough spot.

Haskins only has a #2 TE with Logan Thomas. No one else has showed up at #1 TE. This is what happens when you spend no big FA, nor good draft picks for TE. WR - there is nothing at WR except for McLaurin. Steve Sims, Jr is totally invisible. Time to try someone else. Cam Sims is trying to move up. The teams WR # 2 has been Gibson at RB. Good but not optimum for Haskins.

I think that the team will draft another QB next year with their first pick. Then they will have to to spend draft picks on the OL. The OL is weak and has little depth. Gibson is really good.

This team is two years from being competitive. I think Rivera wanted to save his cap money until he evaluated what he has. Unfortunately, by being quiet in FA, there is barely enough talent to see what this team is about. I also don’t like RR idea of just finishing the game quickly, versus working the two minute drill. Running the last minute two minute drill would help Haskins development, as well as evaluating him further. I honestly wonder if RR would do this if he wasn’t in chemo. I think that is part of it.

Haskins may become a decent QB, and in the fourth qtr he spread the ball around well. But I doubt it will be with this team. I see some good things with him, even in a blowout with the Ravens. He’s essentially in his rookie season. Cam Sims is trying to move Steve Sims out of his position. Inman is ok, but not super impressive. McLaurin is going to be GREAT!

I think they’ll play Haskins for at least another 5-7 games, if he continues to play well. If he has another 3 INT game then Allen will come in. In the current NFL, not being a scrambler is a BIG HANDICAP. He still could be more accurate. He can’t take 18 yard sacks.

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I think he can be forgiven for not having an impact on the game.

He didn't play!

punch it in · 10-04-2020, 04:41 PM

Haskins sucks. The only reason he is playing is so we can replace him with Trevor. Lol.

Warthog · 10-04-2020, 05:17 PM

Lol. He may have played in the first three games but Steve Sims has been pretty invisible despite playing opposite McLaurin.
I think Cam Sims had more impact this game than the other games where Steve played. But I don’t think either guy is the answer. Nor Inman - who is a NFL journeyman. Ultimately, unless Cam Sims lights his azz on fire this season, the acquisition of a real #2 WR will have to wait until next season. Same with a real TE - Logan Thomas is below average despite having few other targets for Haskins to throw to.

I don’t agree that Haskins was terrible this game- he did have over 300 yds, and more importantly he had no INT. His biggest bonehead move was allowing an 18 yard sack and then throwing 9 yds SHORT of the end zone on a 4th down play.

I still don’t see Haskins being the Redskins starter next year. The WFT will draft the best QB available and then have a QB competition in the PS, assuming there is one. When you see some of the new QB rookies doing well, it’s hard to watch Haskin’s baby steps toward being a real starter and Uber-threat QB that he should have been as a #15 pick. I’m just really surprised that Haskins was not rated as a second or even third round pick in 2019. He’s clearly a PROJECT QB, who probably won’t hit his stride until next year or even the next, with more targets and a better line. The trouble for Haskins is that Rivera is not going to risk his second chance as a HC, by waiting for another year or two to see if Haskin’s “get’s it”. That’s what happened with Redskin’s QB, Jason Campbell, who would have flashes of very good play, but mostly mediocrity. He lasted far longer than he should have. You get maybe 2 years to show the NFL what you have now.

Speaking of past QB’s who never made it, it was nice to see RGIII throw a wobbler pass to Kendall Fuller for an INT. Divine justice, so to speak. Second INT for Fuller.

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skinsfan69 · 10-04-2020, 05:22 PM

the entire game was screens, short crossing routes and screens. we have zero offense over 10 yards unless someone breaks a tackle.

i would put in allen simply because we already know dh is not the future. he is not going to be the starter here next year. he may be out of the league next year.

Warthog · 10-04-2020, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

the entire game was screens, short crossing routes and screens. we have zero offense over 10 yards unless someone breaks a tackle.

i would put in allen simply because we already know dh is not the future. he is not going to be the starter here next year. he may be out of the league next year.

Right and the Ravins were happy to GIVE Haskins the little dink and dunk stuff, because they are excellent tacklers. Haskins has nothing in the over 15-20 yard pass range to scare anyone. Teams know how to beat Haskins. Keep him passing short. This was what was happening to Alex Smith as teams caught onto his act before he was hurt.
One thing to remember is that Rivera is seeing how good he can get Haskins by let’s say, mid season. Rivera ALREADY KNOWS how good Allen is. Except for McLaurin / Gibson we have little real talent at EITHER TE or WR #2 or 3. So, it not like Allen is going to blow anyone away with what we have to throw to. Haskin’s is going through his progressions and except for Terry, his other WR/TE usually aren’t open!

Ultimately, they hope to get Haskins confident enough to throw longer. But the sad truth is there’s not a lot of open there. Quick slants and screens are all that are open now. Soon, they will have to start throwing it long to either get a pass interference call or maybe a catch. Turner didn’t do it today because they’re trying to get Dwayne’s confidence back.

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punch it in · 10-04-2020, 05:24 PM

He had 300 yards and more than half of them were yac on screens. He had one deep ball and honestly it was garbage time. Shit you throw enough downfield one is gonna hit the target.

KI Skins Fan · 10-04-2020, 06:07 PM

We should test Haskins for four games. FOUR GAMES only. Not four more games but four games total and next week is our fifth game. Our division is total crap. We can win it but not with Haskins at the controls.

punch it in · 10-04-2020, 06:17 PM

I hope the Jets somehow win some games. Giants look pretty competitive right now. Im really starting to get on the tank for trevor bandwagon....

10-04-2020, 12:51 PM	#5
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,591	Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins? haskins sucks so bad that ron has just about seen enough.

10-04-2020, 03:19 PM	#7
Warthog The Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 1,253	How Many Games Should We Test Haskins? What’s surprised me is how our defense is getting pushed around - every game. Also, the offensive play-calling could be better. The play calling often see’s the offense at Third and long early in the game. With our OL this puts Haskins in a tough spot. Haskins only has a #2 TE with Logan Thomas. No one else has showed up at #1 TE. This is what happens when you spend no big FA, nor good draft picks for TE. WR - there is nothing at WR except for McLaurin. Steve Sims, Jr is totally invisible. Time to try someone else. Cam Sims is trying to move up. The teams WR # 2 has been Gibson at RB. Good but not optimum for Haskins. I think that the team will draft another QB next year with their first pick. Then they will have to to spend draft picks on the OL. The OL is weak and has little depth. Gibson is really good. This team is two years from being competitive. I think Rivera wanted to save his cap money until he evaluated what he has. Unfortunately, by being quiet in FA, there is barely enough talent to see what this team is about. I also don’t like RR idea of just finishing the game quickly, versus working the two minute drill. Running the last minute two minute drill would help Haskins development, as well as evaluating him further. I honestly wonder if RR would do this if he wasn’t in chemo. I think that is part of it. Haskins may become a decent QB, and in the fourth qtr he spread the ball around well. But I doubt it will be with this team. I see some good things with him, even in a blowout with the Ravens. He’s essentially in his rookie season. Cam Sims is trying to move Steve Sims out of his position. Inman is ok, but not super impressive. McLaurin is going to be GREAT! I think they’ll play Haskins for at least another 5-7 games, if he continues to play well. If he has another 3 INT game then Allen will come in. In the current NFL, not being a scrambler is a BIG HANDICAP. He still could be more accurate. He can’t take 18 yard sacks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Four Combat Tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait. Flyboy. "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave" Last edited by Warthog; 10-04-2020 at 04:19 PM.

10-04-2020, 04:41 PM	#9
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 54 Posts: 24,393	Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins? Haskins sucks. The only reason he is playing is so we can replace him with Trevor. Lol.

10-04-2020, 05:17 PM	#10
Warthog The Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 1,253	Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins? Lol. He may have played in the first three games but Steve Sims has been pretty invisible despite playing opposite McLaurin. I think Cam Sims had more impact this game than the other games where Steve played. But I don’t think either guy is the answer. Nor Inman - who is a NFL journeyman. Ultimately, unless Cam Sims lights his azz on fire this season, the acquisition of a real #2 WR will have to wait until next season. Same with a real TE - Logan Thomas is below average despite having few other targets for Haskins to throw to. I don’t agree that Haskins was terrible this game- he did have over 300 yds, and more importantly he had no INT. His biggest bonehead move was allowing an 18 yard sack and then throwing 9 yds SHORT of the end zone on a 4th down play. I still don’t see Haskins being the Redskins starter next year. The WFT will draft the best QB available and then have a QB competition in the PS, assuming there is one. When you see some of the new QB rookies doing well, it’s hard to watch Haskin’s baby steps toward being a real starter and Uber-threat QB that he should have been as a #15 pick. I’m just really surprised that Haskins was not rated as a second or even third round pick in 2019. He’s clearly a PROJECT QB, who probably won’t hit his stride until next year or even the next, with more targets and a better line. The trouble for Haskins is that Rivera is not going to risk his second chance as a HC, by waiting for another year or two to see if Haskin’s “get’s it”. That’s what happened with Redskin’s QB, Jason Campbell, who would have flashes of very good play, but mostly mediocrity. He lasted far longer than he should have. You get maybe 2 years to show the NFL what you have now. Speaking of past QB’s who never made it, it was nice to see RGIII throw a wobbler pass to Kendall Fuller for an INT. Divine justice, so to speak. Second INT for Fuller. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Four Combat Tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait. Flyboy. "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave"

10-04-2020, 05:22 PM	#11
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,591	Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins? the entire game was screens, short crossing routes and screens. we have zero offense over 10 yards unless someone breaks a tackle. i would put in allen simply because we already know dh is not the future. he is not going to be the starter here next year. he may be out of the league next year.

10-04-2020, 11:51 AM	#2
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins? Like Cooley said, Ron watched the tape after the browns game and saw how well the defense play and thought the same thing many did, Skins should have won that game. And then he witnessed how bad the cowboys, Eagles and giants played last week. He senses an opportunity... I think Kyle Allen has been put “on call” __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

10-04-2020, 05:24 PM	#13
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 54 Posts: 24,393	Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins? He had 300 yards and more than half of them were yac on screens. He had one deep ball and honestly it was garbage time. Shit you throw enough downfield one is gonna hit the target.

10-04-2020, 06:07 PM	#14
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,412	Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins? We should test Haskins for four games. FOUR GAMES only. Not four more games but four games total and next week is our fifth game. Our division is total crap. We can win it but not with Haskins at the controls.

10-04-2020, 06:17 PM	#15
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 54 Posts: 24,393	Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins? I hope the Jets somehow win some games. Giants look pretty competitive right now. Im really starting to get on the tank for trevor bandwagon....

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