Welcome Carson Wentz

MTK · 03-10-2022, 08:45 AM

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What is odd to me is why did the colts give up on him? Especially Frank Reich. I watched the first hard knocks episode last night, that guy loved Carson. They don't have a QB in the wings and we gave them really nothing to solve that issue in the trade.

I can see why the Eagles moved on from him, they had Hurts who they feel is better, fine and that got a 1st round pick for Carson.

Just red flags too me.

I definitely get the concern about two teams moving on from him.

BUT...

Considering this is going to be the 6th straight season the Colts start opening day with a different QB, maybe it's worth asking what red flags are coming from that organization too.

Ruhskins · 03-10-2022, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I definitely get the concern about two teams moving on from him.

BUT...

Considering this is going to be the 6th straight season the Colts start opening day with a different QB, maybe it's worth asking what red flags are coming from that organization too.

I bet Reich would have liked one more year of Wentz and not be put in the conundrum they are in at QB now.

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mredskins · 03-10-2022, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I bet Reich would have liked one more year of Wentz and not be put in the conundrum they are in at QB now.

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Summo · 03-10-2022, 08:58 AM

NFL Network this morning reported that it was Irsay that wanted to move on not Ballard.

Chico23231 · 03-10-2022, 09:00 AM

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NFL Network this morning reported that it was Irsay that wanted to move on not Ballard.

This makes me feel a lot better. Another owner with a history of dumb calling the shots over the GM who wanted Wentz to stay? Everyone should should feel better about this

mredskins · 03-10-2022, 09:03 AM

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NFL Network this morning reported that it was Irsay that wanted to move on not Ballard.

See this makes me feel better, Irsay is a fucking idiot.

MTK · 03-10-2022, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I bet Reich would have liked one more year of Wentz and not be put in the conundrum they are in at QB now.

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Yeah I think it was mainly Irsay driving this move.

mredskins · 03-10-2022, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I definitely get the concern about two teams moving on from him.

BUT...

Considering this is going to be the 6th straight season the Colts start opening day with a different QB, maybe it's worth asking what red flags are coming from that organization too.

Decent read:

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2022/03/ca...th-the-qb.html

Jim I is a fucking whack job himself. All the owners are pretty much whack jobs. In that article Wentz even tired to reach out to Jim I to clear the air. I think a sane person would have been like lets try one more year with Carson and get him some WR help, then make a decision in 2024. Nope instead trade him for song and lets go all in on trying to get a Jim G type guy. Maybe its me but not sure jimmy G is much of a upgrade over Carson.

MTK · 03-10-2022, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Decent read:

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2022/03/ca...th-the-qb.html

Jim I is a fucking whack job himself. All the owners are pretty much whack jobs. In that article Wentz even tired to reach out to Jim I to clear the air. I think a sane person would have been like lets try one more year with Carson and get him some WR help, then make a decision in 2024. Nope instead trade him for song and lets go all in on trying to get a Jim G type guy. Maybe its me but not sure jimmy G is much of a upgrade over Carson.

If they want to just have someone hand the ball off 30 times a game Jimmy G can definitely handle that.

mredskins · 03-10-2022, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

If they want to just have someone hand the ball off 30 times a game Jimmy G can definitely handle that.

Well they have JT, might work.

skinsfaninok · 03-10-2022, 08:00 AM

On passes 20 plus yards down field CW had a 90 Overall grade which was in the top 10 of the league for starting QBs

Taylor H = 56 (Worst among 32 starters)

That is the big leap we will have with Wentz, he can stretch the field and put pressure on those DBs.

skinsfaninok · 03-10-2022, 08:08 AM

Actually Wentz and Dak's grades are very similar..

Chief X_Phackter · 03-10-2022, 08:32 AM

Ha! I would have been fine with Mitch here if that is what they decided to do.

I don't buy current player jerseys...

Chico23231 · 03-10-2022, 08:40 AM

Ron’s approach to culture and his relationship with players is why I feel much more comfortable with this move. Wentz does have a lot to prove, but can’t deny last year was a nice bounce back season on the field.

BaltimoreSkins · 03-10-2022, 09:04 AM

13 hours in this thread and we are now debating baseball metaphors. I think we are missing spring training collectively.

Was looking at some of Wentz stats from last season. He had five games where his QB rating was below Heinicke's season average. In those games Indy went 2-3. Two of those games came against Jax. Perhaps sometimes a coach just has a players number?

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Summo The Bringer of Digital Bling Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Lindenhurst NY Age: 55 Posts: 893	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz NFL Network this morning reported that it was Irsay that wanted to move on not Ballard. __________________ My Website Visit my Socials: Twitter: @summo13 IGram:@summo13art

03-10-2022, 08:00 AM	#11
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz On passes 20 plus yards down field CW had a 90 Overall grade which was in the top 10 of the league for starting QBs Taylor H = 56 (Worst among 32 starters) That is the big leap we will have with Wentz, he can stretch the field and put pressure on those DBs. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-10-2022, 08:08 AM	#12
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz Actually Wentz and Dak's grades are very similar.. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-10-2022, 08:32 AM	#13
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,644	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz Ha! I would have been fine with Mitch here if that is what they decided to do. I don't buy current player jerseys...

03-10-2022, 08:40 AM	#14
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz Ron’s approach to culture and his relationship with players is why I feel much more comfortable with this move. Wentz does have a lot to prove, but can’t deny last year was a nice bounce back season on the field. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

03-10-2022, 09:04 AM	#15
BaltimoreSkins Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parkton, MD Posts: 5,888	Re: Welcome Carson Wentz 13 hours in this thread and we are now debating baseball metaphors. I think we are missing spring training collectively. Was looking at some of Wentz stats from last season. He had five games where his QB rating was below Heinicke's season average. In those games Indy went 2-3. Two of those games came against Jax. Perhaps sometimes a coach just has a players number? __________________ lex iniusta non est lex-Thomas Aquinas

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