Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB

[hagams]

I haven't had the time to read the whole discussion, but it doesn't make sense. Either way we go, we will be putting an un-proven QB under center this year. Colt hasn't taken any snaps during game time, and Sanchez won't be up to speed on the playbook in time. If they don't want Jason, we should groom Colt instead of going after MS. Colt should get a shot, just to see if his college stats were the product of a weak schedule, or a talented QB.
I dont like Sanchez, don't want him. I like Jason, and don't think we should do anything until after this year.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

How would people feel if we make a steal and draft Jason Campbell for a first rounder? Scenario: Jets miss out on Sanchez, panic when they look at their QB roster, and make a trade. I know this is completely in la-la land, but what if?

Ruh i think you implicitly mean we get Sanchez too right?

Anyway...no i'm not down w/ it at all. Just after our season ended I started a thread of my own predictions. I said back in December, just after our season ended, JC would have a monster season in '09. It was a tough thing to say cuz he struggled so much in the 2nd half of the season, but i watched every game and saw everything around Jason crumbling...starting w/ a truly pathetic o-line and ending w/ WR who just couldn't get open most of the time. But looking forward I said if the franchise does things right, improving the line and getting better performance out of our WR corp, that JC would look like the stud he was early in the season. I still believe that. What bothers me so much about the Sanchez craze isn't Sanchez, but that Danny the FO somehow still don't see the big picture IMO...you have to build a solid system around a QB to make things happen. We've not done that in forever and evidently have no plan of doing it now. Instead just look to another prospect who would have to be a miracle maker to score the kind of points the NFL's best offensive systems score.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by hagams

I haven't had the time to read the whole discussion, but it doesn't make sense. Either way we go, we will be putting an un-proven QB under center this year. Colt hasn't taken any snaps during game time, and Sanchez won't be up to speed on the playbook in time. If they don't want Jason, we should groom Colt instead of going after MS. Colt should get a shot, just to see if his college stats were the product of a weak schedule, or a talented QB.
I dont like Sanchez, don't want him. I like Jason, and don't think we should do anything until after this year.

You are right. It doesn't make sense. I just don't see Zorn assenting to going into the season with Collins, Brennan, or Sanchez under center.

This is one of many reasons why I think the whole trade-up-for-Sanchez thing is a smoke screen, nothing more. I really don't think that the Skins are as smitten with Sanchez as many people think we are.

[SBXVII]

The more I hear the more I doubt it is a smoke screen. We had a Qb that had been in the league for a few yrs and played lights out for 8 games. Then got out shined by Rookies (Balt, Atlanta) with new coach's in new offenses. I think Zorn sees something he does not like in JC or simply thinks we could do better.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

He also said we would have 4 qbs in training camp, that sounds like camp bodies, not 4 prospective qbs. And if they do what people say, and get sanchez/trade JC, that still only leaves 3.

I think VC is absolutely comfortable lying to get what he needs, Zorn seems to need to always have some nugget of truth, and that makes his statements now when he has to be deceptive almost comical.

Once again I agree with you from beginning to end. You are right, Zorny is hilarious when it comes to the cloak-and-dagger draft stuff because he doesn't want to lie and he doesn't want to tell the truth. I'll bet he's a rotten poker player because he feels uncomfortable bluffing.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The more I hear the more I doubt it is a smoke screen. We had a Qb that had been in the league for a few yrs and played lights out for 8 games. Then got out shined by Rookies (Balt, Atlanta) with new coach's in new offenses. I think Zorn sees something he does not like in JC or simply thinks we could do better.

Of Snyder, VC, and Zorn, I think Zorn is JC's biggest fan. If nothing else, Zorn has a lot invested in their joint project and I think Zorn would prefer to see it through closer to the end, if there is one, rather than starting over from scratch.

We'll see tomorrow but I have no problem with being on the record saying SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE. If I have to eat crow, I'll have mine with salsa, but right now I'm thawing a steak for tomorrow instead.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The more I hear the more I doubt it is a smoke screen. We had a Qb that had been in the league for a few yrs and played lights out for 8 games. Then got out shined by Rookies (Balt, Atlanta) with new coach's in new offenses. I think Zorn sees something he does not like in JC or simply thinks we could do better.

Its' not Zorn cause he is a Puppet of the Front Office. He has zero imput if we take Sanchez I bet. Remember he got the job of Head Coach by lack of big name coaches wanted the job. Dan Synder maybe the next AL DAVIS.

[sancho2613]

what ever happend to all the ppl saying that Cutler is a baby and that Campbell isn't a cry baby and he would never yadayadayada It's kinda funny now that Campbell starts crying about him wanting to be traded if another QB joins the team!

[Swarley]

has anyone actually heard Campbell say a thing? I'm confused. I thought all this came from "someone close to the qb"

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by sancho2613

what ever happend to all the ppl saying that Cutler is a baby and that Campbell isn't a cry baby and he would never yadayadayada It's kinda funny now that Campbell starts crying about him wanting to be traded if another QB joins the team!

If only he had learned from Brett Favre, he wouldn't have done anything in response to disrespect from his own organization.

[sancho2613]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If only he had learned from Brett Favre, he wouldn't have done anything in response to disrespect from his own organization.

exactly what i'm saying he should of learned from Favre because Campbell has obviously proven himself way beyond Favre ever could.... Campbell is "still learning" apparently he will be for about 10 years longer but what is he thinking crying about wanting to be traded he should leave that to the "crappier" QBs like Favre and Cutler. I mean Campbell has done so much for the Skins for them to even think about replacing him not like those other two who just weren't that good. they didn't hadn't earned the right to bitch and complain like Campbell I mean Favre only has 3 MVP's and a SB win but what is that compared to all of JC's accomplishments...... sorry don't mean to be disrespectful i'm just bored but seriously I was only commenting on how almost every1 was talking up Campbell like "he would never cry about being traded like Cutler did" or that "Cutler is such a baby he hears he might get replaced and he starts crying and bitching about being traded we don't want him here Campbell wouldn't do that" I just find it a lil funny that here he is crying about wanting to be traded if a QB is drafted

[sancho2613]

I really do hope Campbell finally has the year everyone has been waiting for I don't HATE Campbell I just don't know if he'll ever be a top QB no matter how much of the "he needs to play in the same system for bla bla bla bla" comes up because either your a top QB or not I think he has the potential but I get kinda sick of hearing so many excuses for his lack of production, but who knows maybe this is his year...

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Remember when Sanchez wasn't a definite top 10?

Bingo we have a winner!How many college games does he have under his belt and how are the guys who were in front of him doing?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sancho2613

what ever happend to all the ppl saying that Cutler is a baby and that Campbell isn't a cry baby and he would never yadayadayada It's kinda funny now that Campbell starts crying about him wanting to be traded if another QB joins the team!

Campbell has class, he handeled the Cutler thing with grace and class and then Snyder goes out and does it again,burn me once ...not twice!

[sancho2613]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Campbell has class, he handeled the Cutler thing with grace and class and then Snyder goes out and does it again,burn me once ...not twice!

Ya luckily you only have to handle rumors with class and grace once because after that it's ok to bitch and cry when you hear rumors... Damn Cutler if he had only let the 1st rumor go with out crying and then he could cry all he wanted on the next rumor but still have class....