Campbell will ask for trade if Redskins draft a QB

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by gw0103

Campbell will hopefully be Our starter for sometime to come. The guy has not had one OC in place for any set time and I think He has shown alot of maturity
just going through the changes year after year in playcalling, an old, injury-prone OL, and substandard recieving core. Just give JC a chance to stop
running for His life in the pocket, and He'll do something.. I like him, but his motion quickness in pass delivery needs to speed up and I think they need to
let Him get more of a feel for his game, not be always waiting for someone to radio in a solution. If He masters those two aspects and the OL and Portis
do their do, we'll be set to kick you know what.

do you write these, paste them into notepad, and then back into the text editor?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Dan could have spent the offseason doing some root cause analysis on what went wrong down the stretch, or you could something reactionary like try to acquire another quarterback. Most good front offices would have done the former...shocker that Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerratto decided to do the latter.

But but, it's the fault of a player or two!

[tryfuhl]

Anyone think that the Saunders offense limited Campbell's progression? You think maybe that made him go through progressions and reads worse, since he had to be so focused on where to put the ball?

He needs to be in a dropback like mentioned, put him in Pittsburgh and he'd be another Roethlisberger, good enough to get it done.. funny how it was just last season it was being said he'll be getting a Roethlisberger-type deal prob

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Anyone think that the Saunders offense limited Campbell's progression? You think maybe that made him go through progressions and reads worse, since he had to be so focused on where to put the ball?

I think that it was less the Saunders offense and more the revolving door of offensive coordinators. When football becomes think instead of react, especially for a QB, you're pretty much dead. I remember last year, during a broadcast, the announcer was saying that Jason has to think about where his checkdowns are going to be...that's not good. Most great players stay in one system for a long time and learn it inside and out.

Steve Young, who's in the Hall of Fame (Wedding Crashers quote), said that it takes 3-4 years to learn the WCO and people want to dump JC after one? If they do this, the front office had better make damn sure they find a "franchise QB" who's going to be here for a while in order to learn an offense and become comfortable. Otherwise, we'll be talking about dumping Sanchez in 4 years and the next big thing at Q.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I think that it was less the Saunders offense and more the revolving door of offensive coordinators. When football becomes think instead of react, especially for a QB, you're pretty much dead. I remember last year, during a broadcast, the announcer was saying that Jason has to think about where his checkdowns are going to be...that's not good. Most great players stay in one system for a long time and learn it inside and out.

Steve Young, who's in the Hall of Fame (Wedding Crashers quote), said that it takes 3-4 years to learn the WCO and people want to dump JC after one? If they do this, the front office had better make damn sure they find a "franchise QB" who's going to be here for a while in order to learn an offense and become comfortable. Otherwise, we'll be talking about dumping Sanchez in 4 years and the next big thing at Q.

Well by the time he's comfortable and efficient in it he might be 30 or 31. I don't think he's exactly gotten a fair shake by any means, but I think that he's not as well liked as others for other reasons as well. Kinda like when Giants told Eli he needs to be the physical and vocal leader; guys rally around Campbell in interviews but man that emotionless stare he has is probably wearing itself on the FO. But yeah, we're definitely impatient.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Well by the time he's comfortable and efficient in it he might be 30 or 31. I don't think he's exactly gotten a fair shake by any means, but I think that he's not as well liked as others for other reasons as well. Kinda like when Giants told Eli he needs to be the physical and vocal leader; guys rally around Campbell in interviews but man that emotionless stare he has is probably wearing itself on the FO. But yeah, we're definitely impatient.

Whatever the case, I want to see a "Quarterback of the Future" actually get a future with the Washington Redskins at some point.

Hell, if a guy isn't Peyton Manning here in his first 2 years, he's not going to survive. I don't know what to do about that, though.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I think that it was less the Saunders offense and more the revolving door of offensive coordinators. When football becomes think instead of react, especially for a QB, you're pretty much dead. I remember last year, during a broadcast, the announcer was saying that Jason has to think about where his checkdowns are going to be...that's not good. Most great players stay in one system for a long time and learn it inside and out.

Steve Young, who's in the Hall of Fame (Wedding Crashers quote), said that it takes 3-4 years to learn the WCO and people want to dump JC after one? If they do this, the front office had better make damn sure they find a "franchise QB" who's going to be here for a while in order to learn an offense and become comfortable. Otherwise, we'll be talking about dumping Sanchez in 4 years and the next big thing at Q.

No...Sanchez will be overlooked for another prospect in a year or two if he doesn't have a great season. I honestly think it's gotten to the point lots of fans, especially those of us who take the time to become at least a little more informed/knowledgeable as Warpathers, are now more patient than our owner/FO. Think about it. The most knowledgeable contributors (I'm not one but i pay close attention to their posts) are encouraged by JC's progress in the WCO, and they're realistic enough to acknowledge the sad state of things surrounding Jason. Well again our ownership/FO somehow misses all this...i mean what is most appalling to me is the absence of a clear and concise statement by anyone at Redskins Park acknowledging the utter collapse of the o-line in the 2nd half of last season, especially in terms of protecting Jason.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by The Goat

No...Sanchez will be overlooked for another prospect in a year or two if he doesn't have a great season. I honestly think it's gotten to the point lots of fans, especially those of us who take the time to become at least a little more informed/knowledgeable as Warpathers, are now more patient than our owner/FO. Think about it. The most knowledgeable contributors (I'm not one but i pay close attention to their posts) are encouraged by JC's progress in the WCO, and they're realistic enough to acknowledge the sad state of things surrounding Jason. Well again our ownership/FO somehow misses all this...i mean what is most appalling to me is the absence of a clear and concise statement by anyone at Redskins Park acknowledging the utter collapse of the o-line in the 2nd half of last season, especially in terms of protecting Jason.

The problem is that the most knowledgeable portion of the fan base is rarely heard and often shouted down by people who see a dropoff in production and assume he'll never get better. The majority of our fanbase is not like Gtripp. Most of the people I know want Campbell gone or Colt to start.

[tryfuhl]

You've gotta hate your life if you work for the Redskins organization, unless your name is Vinny Cerrato.. or you're a player, well some of them

[gw0103]

It's a huge grasp to say that Sanchez is even going to be available.

[Dr Do Itch Big]

Well if JC said he will seek a trade if we bring in another QB??? Dont let the door hit you in the as s on the way out big fella.....

No Sanchez trade? - Redskins 360 - Washington Times

-- Coach Jim Zorn talked about evaluating quarterbacks on accuracy, what former Maryland coach Bobby Ross called "evadeability." tenacity and leadership. Zorn also said the Redskins will definitely add a quarterback this weekend, whether through the draft or as a undrafted free agent.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Dr Do Itch Big

Well if JC said he will seek a trade if we bring in another QB??? Dont let the door hit you in the as s on the way out big fella.....

No Sanchez trade? - Redskins 360 - Washington Times

-- Coach Jim Zorn talked about evaluating quarterbacks on accuracy, what former Maryland coach Bobby Ross called "evadeability." tenacity and leadership. Zorn also said the Redskins will definitely add a quarterback this weekend, whether through the draft or as a undrafted free agent.

He also said we would have 4 qbs in training camp, that sounds like camp bodies, not 4 prospective qbs. And if they do what people say, and get sanchez/trade JC, that still only leaves 3.

I think VC is absolutely comfortable lying to get what he needs, Zorn seems to need to always have some nugget of truth, and that makes his statements now when he has to be deceptive almost comical.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

He also said we would have 4 qbs in training camp, that sounds like camp bodies, not 4 prospective qbs. And if they do what people say, and get sanchez/trade JC, that still only leaves 3.

I think VC is absolutely comfortable lying to get what he needs, Zorn seems to need to always have some nugget of truth, and that makes his statements now when he has to be deceptive almost comical.

Once again I agree with you from beginning to end. You are right, Zorny is hilarious when it comes to the cloak-and-dagger draft stuff because he doesn't want to lie and he doesn't want to tell the truth. I'll bet he's a rotten poker player because he feels uncomfortable bluffing.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Once again I agree with you from beginning to end. You are right, Zorny is hilarious when it comes to the cloak-and-dagger draft stuff because he doesn't want to lie and he doesn't want to tell the truth. I'll bet he's a rotten poker player because he feels uncomfortable bluffing.

So a question: which is worse (from a comical sense)-
watching Campbell try to slide, or Zorn try to bluff?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So a question: which is worse (from a comical sense)-
watching Campbell try to slide, or Zorn try to bluff?

I'll go with Zorn by only a hair.