Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Outstanding analysis.

As usual.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But, why don't we actually go a step further, and break down Wilcots' breakdown.

Play 1

Campbell faces a 5 man overload rush against 6 man protection. The Redskins have the play picked up. Campbell's first read is open, so he goes to him, completing the pass and Moss is tackled short of the first down. The video shows that Moss was the correct read. Wilcots suggested that the game situation dictated that Campbell should have held the ball the extra second, and try to thread it into Randle El who was a yard short of the marker on 3 and 13.

Wilcots does not tell you that the Redskins were going to, and did go for it on fourth down. (This would hurt his argument) It's not like this is important or anything. Because getting 7 yards when you need to get 13 in two plays is sooooo useless.

For the record, Campbell's pass at the first down marker on 4th down was broken up. Randle El fell down.

Play 2

Redskins protect only 5 against a 4 man rush. Samuels is clearly beaten off the snap, and Campbell has pressure immediately.

Thrash is on a clear out route at the top of the screen. The corner turns him loose into cover two and the safety doesn't go over.

This looks terrible because Wilcots puts a #2 on Thrash before the play. But wait, Thrash was running a clear out, he doesn't even look back at the quarterback. That's not a read in the progression, he's supposed to take the safety out the play. That's his job.

Naming Thrash as the second receiver is utter bullshit from Wilcots. He's simply NOT in the progression. If Campbell had extended the play to the right side of the field, perhaps he would have hit him with a pass. Otherwise, it's clear Portis was the ONLY throw on this play. There is nothing evidence about this.

The 8 yards MOVED THE REDSKINS INTO FIELD GOAL RANGE ON THIRD AND 13. Zorn passed on a 52 yard field goal attempt for a pooch punt...which Plack put in the end zone, probably because of a curse that Campbell put on him because he was leaving the field.

Play 3

This is a designed play called by Zorn that the Giants sniffed out. ALL THREE DEEP RECEIVERS ARE ON CLEARS, AND ALL THREE ARE PROPERLY COVERED.

This was not a good call by Zorn, or at least it wasn't going to work into a zone defense. If they had caught the Giants in a blitz, it's a 40 yard TD pass. They didn't, and they didn't convert. I don't even know what Wilcots is putting on Campbell. That he should have changed the play in the huddle? That he should have drawn the Giants offsides with his cadence?

Needless to say, Wilcots' sample consists of a 3rd and 12, a 3rd and 13, and a 3rd and 17. Boy, what a freakin bum right.

Not one missed read in the entire clip. Just bad analysis from a bad analyst.

Wilcots = pwned. Well done Tripp.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But, why don't we actually go a step further, and break down Wilcots' breakdown.

Play 1

Campbell faces a 5 man overload rush against 6 man protection. The Redskins have the play picked up. Campbell's first read is open, so he goes to him, completing the pass and Moss is tackled short of the first down. The video shows that Moss was the correct read. Wilcots suggested that the game situation dictated that Campbell should have held the ball the extra second, and try to thread it into Randle El who was a yard short of the marker on 3 and 13.

Wilcots does not tell you that the Redskins were going to, and did go for it on fourth down. (This would hurt his argument) It's not like this is important or anything. Because getting 7 yards when you need to get 13 in two plays is sooooo useless.

For the record, Campbell's pass at the first down marker on 4th down was broken up. Randle El fell down.

Play 2

Redskins protect only 5 against a 4 man rush. Samuels is clearly beaten off the snap, and Campbell has pressure immediately.

Thrash is on a clear out route at the top of the screen. The corner turns him loose into cover two and the safety doesn't go over.

This looks terrible because Wilcots puts a #2 on Thrash before the play. But wait, Thrash was running a clear out, he doesn't even look back at the quarterback. That's not a read in the progression, he's supposed to take the safety out the play. That's his job.

Naming Thrash as the second receiver is utter bullshit from Wilcots. He's simply NOT in the progression. If Campbell had extended the play to the right side of the field, perhaps he would have hit him with a pass. Otherwise, it's clear Portis was the ONLY throw on this play. There is nothing evidence about this.

The 8 yards MOVED THE REDSKINS INTO FIELD GOAL RANGE ON THIRD AND 13. Zorn passed on a 52 yard field goal attempt for a pooch punt...which Plack put in the end zone, probably because of a curse that Campbell put on him because he was leaving the field.

Play 3

This is a designed play called by Zorn that the Giants sniffed out. ALL THREE DEEP RECEIVERS ARE ON CLEARS, AND ALL THREE ARE PROPERLY COVERED.

This was not a good call by Zorn, or at least it wasn't going to work into a zone defense. If they had caught the Giants in a blitz, it's a 40 yard TD pass. They didn't, and they didn't convert. I don't even know what Wilcots is putting on Campbell. That he should have changed the play in the huddle? That he should have drawn the Giants offsides with his cadence?

Needless to say, Wilcots' sample consists of a 3rd and 12, a 3rd and 13, and a 3rd and 17. Boy, what a freakin bum right.

Not one missed read in the entire clip. Just bad analysis from a bad analyst.

Excellent. Great to see well thought-out arguments after a night of pure BS from DB and Nfnick.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But, why don't we actually go a step further, and break down Wilcots' breakdown.

Play 1

Campbell faces a 5 man overload rush against 6 man protection. The Redskins have the play picked up. Campbell's first read is open, so he goes to him, completing the pass and Moss is tackled short of the first down. The video shows that Moss was the correct read. Wilcots suggested that the game situation dictated that Campbell should have held the ball the extra second, and try to thread it into Randle El who was a yard short of the marker on 3 and 13.

Wilcots does not tell you that the Redskins were going to, and did go for it on fourth down. (This would hurt his argument) It's not like this is important or anything. Because getting 7 yards when you need to get 13 in two plays is sooooo useless.

For the record, Campbell's pass at the first down marker on 4th down was broken up. Randle El fell down.

Play 2

Redskins protect only 5 against a 4 man rush. Samuels is clearly beaten off the snap, and Campbell has pressure immediately.

Thrash is on a clear out route at the top of the screen. The corner turns him loose into cover two and the safety doesn't go over.

This looks terrible because Wilcots puts a #2 on Thrash before the play. But wait, Thrash was running a clear out, he doesn't even look back at the quarterback. That's not a read in the progression, he's supposed to take the safety out the play. That's his job.

Naming Thrash as the second receiver is utter bullshit from Wilcots. He's simply NOT in the progression. If Campbell had extended the play to the right side of the field, perhaps he would have hit him with a pass. Otherwise, it's clear Portis was the ONLY throw on this play. There is nothing evidence about this.

The 8 yards MOVED THE REDSKINS INTO FIELD GOAL RANGE ON THIRD AND 13. Zorn passed on a 52 yard field goal attempt for a pooch punt...which Plack put in the end zone, probably because of a curse that Campbell put on him because he was leaving the field.

Play 3

This is a designed play called by Zorn that the Giants sniffed out. ALL THREE DEEP RECEIVERS ARE ON CLEARS, AND ALL THREE ARE PROPERLY COVERED.

This was not a good call by Zorn, or at least it wasn't going to work into a zone defense. If they had caught the Giants in a blitz, it's a 40 yard TD pass. They didn't, and they didn't convert. I don't even know what Wilcots is putting on Campbell. That he should have changed the play in the huddle? That he should have drawn the Giants offsides with his cadence?

Needless to say, Wilcots' sample consists of a 3rd and 12, a 3rd and 13, and a 3rd and 17. Boy, what a freakin bum right.

Not one missed read in the entire clip. Just bad analysis from a bad analyst.

Nice post, unfortunately we're dealing with the "reality-challenged". I tried something similar earlier with the same result (no response from "Mr. I saw it on NFLN, it must be right").

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post566090

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But, why don't we actually go a step further, and break down Wilcots' breakdown.

Play 1

Campbell faces a 5 man overload rush against 6 man protection. The Redskins have the play picked up. Campbell's first read is open, so he goes to him, completing the pass and Moss is tackled short of the first down. The video shows that Moss was the correct read. Wilcots suggested that the game situation dictated that Campbell should have held the ball the extra second, and try to thread it into Randle El who was a yard short of the marker on 3 and 13.

Wilcots does not tell you that the Redskins were going to, and did go for it on fourth down. (This would hurt his argument) It's not like this is important or anything. Because getting 7 yards when you need to get 13 in two plays is sooooo useless.

For the record, Campbell's pass at the first down marker on 4th down was broken up. Randle El fell down.

Play 2

Redskins protect only 5 against a 4 man rush. Samuels is clearly beaten off the snap, and Campbell has pressure immediately.

Thrash is on a clear out route at the top of the screen. The corner turns him loose into cover two and the safety doesn't go over.

This looks terrible because Wilcots puts a #2 on Thrash before the play. But wait, Thrash was running a clear out, he doesn't even look back at the quarterback. That's not a read in the progression, he's supposed to take the safety out the play. That's his job.

Naming Thrash as the second receiver is utter bullshit from Wilcots. He's simply NOT in the progression. If Campbell had extended the play to the right side of the field, perhaps he would have hit him with a pass. Otherwise, it's clear Portis was the ONLY throw on this play. There is nothing evidence about this.

The 8 yards MOVED THE REDSKINS INTO FIELD GOAL RANGE ON THIRD AND 13. Zorn passed on a 52 yard field goal attempt for a pooch punt...which Plack put in the end zone, probably because of a curse that Campbell put on him because he was leaving the field.

Play 3

This is a designed play called by Zorn that the Giants sniffed out. ALL THREE DEEP RECEIVERS ARE ON CLEARS, AND ALL THREE ARE PROPERLY COVERED.

This was not a good call by Zorn, or at least it wasn't going to work into a zone defense. If they had caught the Giants in a blitz, it's a 40 yard TD pass. They didn't, and they didn't convert. I don't even know what Wilcots is putting on Campbell. That he should have changed the play in the huddle? That he should have drawn the Giants offsides with his cadence?

Needless to say, Wilcots' sample consists of a 3rd and 12, a 3rd and 13, and a 3rd and 17. Boy, what a freakin bum right.

Not one missed read in the entire clip. Just bad analysis from a bad analyst.

dcbuchanon you have yet to respond to this. Please do so before you utter any more nonsense.

[GTripp0012]

The bigger point is this: If Zorn tries to change anything that Campbell did in those plays, he's not doing his job. Zorn needs to reinforce Campbell's progress, because 2006 Campbell probably would have forced a pass or two.

Wilcots, in trying to prove Campbell played scared, gave us two great examples of his maturity. I would suggest that he probably didn't watch enough film to build a solid opinion of Campbell, but I can't prove that he simply didn't try to cherry pick the three worst plays he made, and came up with the above.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The bigger point is this: If Zorn tries to change anything that Campbell did in those plays, he's not doing his job. Zorn needs to reinforce Campbell's progress, because 2006 Campbell probably would have forced a pass or two.

Excellent point GTripp.

[SmootSmack]

I'm sorry but Tripp's argument is just words. There's no video proof, no pictures, no claymation even. Until then, it's just bunk

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm sorry but Tripp's argument is just words. There's no video proof, no pictures, no claymation even. Until then, it's just bunk

Wait, you can just mute your computer before you play the Wilcots clip...It magically changes the material to be a Campbell development tape.

Seriously though, if you watch with the sound off, it just looks like an NFL QB taking what the defense gives him. It's so boring and status quo that you probably won't get through the second clip.

[GTripp0012]

I'm just glad we're in 3rd and 12+ so often. That really speaks to the slashing running game we have and all the penalties we don't get.

[DynamiteRave]

Go go gadget, wall of text!!

Good Lord man, was it really worth all that?

I am a Brennan fan and I'd love to see the kid out there. But if JC is what's best for the team (so says the coaches) I'll take that, cut my losses and call it a day. If we're winning at the end of this season and JC is still at the helm, don't come back to these boards saying it was a lucky season or you knew he could do it all along.

By the way, no need hating on the ladies. Being one, for you to think you have some superior knowledge compared to Redskingirl is a load of crap. Who cares if she got her stats from NFL.com, at least she's backing up her statement with stats. That kinda counts for something if it's supporting her argument. Not everyone can put their life on hold and re-watch all of last years games, come onto a Redskins board and start putting everyone on blast because they don't agree with them.

Capping on someone because they're saying something that's a a steaming pile is one thing. Once you start saying it's a steaming pile because they're female is just idiotic to say the least. I've seen dudes on here have the most inane and obtuse opinions ever. But a crap argument is a crap argument, gender aside.

But seriously if you think you can do better and are more qualified to make roster decisions than Zorn and the Redskins staff, please direct your employment application to Dan Snyder.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Go go gadget, wall of text!!

Good Lord man, was it really worth all that?

lol, generally the more wordier the post, the less they are really saying.

[SmootSmack]

Damn you Redskinsgirl for referring to statistics on NFL.com to support your arguments on a football message board! What the hell are you thinking? Sigh...women

[DBUCHANON101]

This looks terrible because Wilcots puts a #2 on Thrash before the play. But wait, Thrash was running a clear out, he doesn't even look back at the quarterback. That's not a read in the progression, he's supposed to take the safety out the play. That's his job.

When attacking a Cover 2 look thats what you look for, the corner release when the safety is moving over the top. thats when the window opens during that transition.

This is a designed play called by Zorn that the Giants sniffed out. ALL THREE DEEP RECEIVERS ARE ON CLEARS, AND ALL THREE ARE PROPERLY COVERED

One on one coverage. sorry man but this is the NFL, you arent going to have WIDE open wr's very often.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

This looks terrible because Wilcots puts a #2 on Thrash before the play. But wait, Thrash was running a clear out, he doesn't even look back at the quarterback. That's not a read in the progression, he's supposed to take the safety out the play. That's his job.

When attacking a Cover 2 look thats what you look for, the corner release when the safety is moving over the top. thats when the window opens during that transition.

This is a designed play called by Zorn that the Giants sniffed out. ALL THREE DEEP RECEIVERS ARE ON CLEARS, AND ALL THREE ARE PROPERLY COVERED

One on one coverage. sorry man but this is the NFL, you arent going to have WIDE open wr's very often.

On this play you (and Wilcotts) are asking Campbell to make a 30 yard throw, from the opposite hash, to the sideline, with a safety in cover two with no mid field threat. 2 things would have happened, the ball would have been intercepted or James Thrash would have retired that Monday because his body would have been broken in half by the safety.