What has Obama done well?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by dmek25

come on and man up. you wanted people to post here with rips towards Obama. just by the way the original thread was worded. and to say that Bush has no bearing on how Obama is doing is down right stupid

That's your choice what you want to believe. I had honest intentions. Just cause I don't like Obama doesn't mean I am not willing to hear about what he has done well. No way is someone completely bad all the time. Everyone has positives, I already explained this. There are blind Obama lovers here which is why my first post displaying my dislike for him wasn't taken well. It really doesn't matter...you can make this about what he has done right, or not...it's completely up to the Obama fans. This thread could be about what he has done right if you were willing to actually make it that way instead of trying to see the negative. If you haven't noticed, I have not attacked ANY of his negatives, in fact I actually stood up for him when someone said "He's not even american".
You can see what you want, I can't do anything about that.
Yes, I dislike Obama.
No, I am not willing to close my ears to the positive he has done.
Yes, it's that simple.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by firstdown

OK Demek25 I have a positive for Obama. While watching the guys put new windows in my house I thought about the $1500 tax break I will get because of Obama. So his tax break for up grading windows is something he has done well/right. I get a tax break and the window guy gets the job. SS answered the Bush ? for me and no I was not a big fan of Clintons. The one thing with Clinton is that the Rep had control of congress so Clinton could only do but so much.

I got new windows under the Bush administration and they were deducted off my yearly taxes...is that what you are referring to, or was there an actual program to give you a tax break as well as you will get the deductions on your yearly taxes? Or a separation of the two? I am confused on that.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I got new windows under the Bush administration and they were deducted off my yearly taxes...is that what you are referring to, or was there an actual program to give you a tax break as well as you will get the deductions on your yearly taxes? Or a separation of the two? I am confused on that.

I think the Obama deal is a true tax credit instead of just a write off. For example if I owe 3000 next year before my tax break when its applied I will only owe 1500. Under the Bush plan I really would only save at my current tax rate. So if I claimed 1000 for windows then that is not counted as income and I save 300 if I was at a tax rate of 30%. Under Obama's plan I can write off 30% of the total cost up $1500.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

One good thing, IMO, is that he got the F-22 canceled.

In my opinion, just like UHC should wait, so should advanced fighters/weapon systems.

Agree with the cancellation of the F-22, but because it was a very costly program and the Joint Strike Fighter F-35 will be more cost-effective and provide more capabilities than the F-22 and be fully operational within a few years.

Advanced weapons systems are what keeps us free. We can argue politcal views all day long, but it's because of these systems that we keep the right to do that.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Agree with the cancellation of the F-22, but because it was a very costly program and the Joint Strike Fighter F-35 will be more cost-effective and provide more capabilities than the F-22 and be fully operational within a few years.

Advanced weapons systems are what keeps us free. We can argue politcal views all day long, but it's because of these systems that we keep the right to do that.

I agree to disagree, not worth going off-topic again. Note, I did not say to abolish forever though.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I think the Obama deal is a true tax credit instead of just a write off. For example if I owe 3000 next year before my tax break when its applied I will only owe 1500. Under the Bush plan I really would only save at my current tax rate. So if I claimed 1000 for windows then that is not counted as income and I save 300 if I was at a tax rate of 30%. Under Obama's plan I can write off 30% of the total cost up $1500.

Gotcha...thanks for the explanation.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Agree with the cancellation of the F-22, but because it was a very costly program and the Joint Strike Fighter F-35 will be more cost-effective and provide more capabilities than the F-22 and be fully operational within a few years.

Advanced weapons systems are what keeps us free. We can argue politcal views all day long, but it's because of these systems that we keep the right to do that.

Yeah, but the F22 is sooo coool

My sister is stationed at Eglin AFB and sent me this photo of the F35 in testing:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ennett/F35.jpg

[firstdown]

When out fishing one day I had a Stelth bommer fly right over the boat at a low altitude. The cool part was we had our back to the plane as it approached and did not even hear it until it was passing.

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Very true...although it's interesting to note that when anyone mentioned how actions taken (or not taken) during the Clinton administration may have impacted the Bush administration that was usually brushed aside. Every president affects future presidents. It didn't just start with Bush/Obama

I know. Having all that excess money in the National Treasury must've been a real bitch.

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Bush positives: - concept of No Child Left Behind
- Tax cuts resulting in 52 consecutive months of job creation
- minimized federal funding of abortion
- Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act
- Global HIV/AIDS funding
- instrumental in expanding NATO alliance
- Roberts & Alito and other strict constructionalist judge appointments.
- consolidated and reformed intelligence sharing
- parts of Homeland Security (agencies under HS should've consolidated more to reduce costs not as much new spending)
- Bush Admin thwarted additional terrorist attempts to attack US citizens/interests.
- Afghanistan (should've had better long term strategy)
- Iraq (actual war well executed, long term strategy not-so-much.) Troop surge worked though.
- Response to early 2000s (Clinton) recession.
- Economic Stimulus Act (mostly tax rebates)
- Do Not Call Act

Can I have some of the acid you just dropped?

[FRPLG]

Way to contribute dblanch66

[GMScud]

A few good reads here:

Obama Snares Palin, Media in Wide Blame-Game Net: Caroline Baum - Bloomberg.com

Obama Needs Confidence Boost - George's Bottom Line

Charlie Cook: Dem situation has 'slipped completely out of control' - The Scorecard - POLITICO.com

[firstdown]

This health care stuff is just like deja vu back to the Hillary care.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Yeah, but the F22 is sooo coool

My sister is stationed at Eglin AFB and sent me this photo of the F35 in testing:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ennett/F35.jpg

That's an awesome pic. It makes a great desktop wallpaper too. Thx.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

Can I have some of the acid you just dropped?

Surprise, a lefty from LA disagrees. You're right though:
- the concept of helping all children succeed in school, especially in lower and mid-lower income areas, and holding schools accountable for performance is a crappy idea.
- so is stopping Partial Birth abortion
- the Bush Admin of course had nothing to do with stopping terrorist attacks from 2001-2008.
- who cares about the millions in Africa that Bush approved funding saved from AIDS & death.
- we should've never went after Bin Laden and the Taliban, we deserved 9/11.
- I enjoy telemarketing calls at dinnertime.

I'll just drop another hit, how silly of me to even post.