Report: Shanahan to DC done deal

[BigHairedAristocrat]

According to glazer, shanahan wants the Dallas job bad. I'd put our chances of landing him at about 15%

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

According to glazer, shanahan wants the Dallas job bad. I'd put our chances of landing him at about 15%

HUH?
Please document your sources...everyone else seems to think the opposite...such as 85% shanny will take skins vs 15% cowboys.
Are the Cowboys even looking for a coach at this point?
They may make the playoffs

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

According to glazer, shanahan wants the Dallas job bad. I'd put our chances of landing him at about 15%

15% because Glazer says Shanahan wants the Dallas job?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

15% because Glazer says Shanahan wants the Dallas job?

Yeah... isn't Glazer supposed to be tight with Shanahan? Dallas makes more sense for Shanahan for a number of reasons -

1. Dalls is not, historically, as dysfunctional of a franchise as Washington.
2. Dallas is viewed as being an "elite" franchise. Washington is not.
3. Dallas has a Franchise Quarterback. We dont.
4. Dallas has a trio of young, talented running backs. We don't even have one.
5. Shanahan wants to coach with his son, who is currently in Houston. If Shanahan coaches in Dallas, his son and family won't have to move. If Kyle has children, i imagine this could be very important.
6. Snyder is historically impatient. Shanahan turned down Snyder in this past off-season because he thought Zorn deserved more time. Jerry Jones has been very patient with his coaches, so Shanhan (and by extension, his son) will have more job security there.
7. We have all been assuming that, since Shanahan wanted to work with Allen in Buffalo, that Allen's hiring here meant Shanahan was next. However, what if thats not the case at all? What if Snyder found out that Shanahan wanted to work with Allen, and then went out and hired Allen. That, given the number of times Shanahan has reportedly already turned down Shanahan, would likely make him feel pressured and annoyed. All the more reason to sign elsewhere.
8. Allen's contract allegedly gives him final say on who the redskins draft. If the reports that Shanahan wants total control are true, then he's not going anywhere where HE doesn't have final say.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Yeah... isn't Glazer supposed to be tight with Shanahan? Dallas makes more sense for Shanahan for a number of reasons -

1. Dalls is not, historically, as dysfunctional of a franchise as Washington.
2. Dallas is viewed as being an "elite" franchise. Washington is not.
3. Dallas has a Franchise Quarterback. We dont.
4. Dallas has a trio of young, talented running backs. We don't even have one.
5. Shanahan wants to coach with his son, who is currently in Houston. If Shanahan coaches in Dallas, his son and family won't have to move. If Kyle has children, i imagine this could be very important.
6. Snyder is historically impatient. Shanahan turned down Snyder in this past off-season because he thought Zorn deserved more time. Jerry Jones has been very patient with his coaches, so Shanhan (and by extension, his son) will have more job security there.
7. We have all been assuming that, since Shanahan wanted to work with Allen in Buffalo, that Allen's hiring here meant Shanahan was next. However, what if thats not the case at all? What if Snyder found out that Shanahan wanted to work with Allen, and then went out and hired Allen. That, given the number of times Shanahan has reportedly already turned down Shanahan, would likely make him feel pressured and annoyed. All the more reason to sign elsewhere.
8. Allen's contract allegedly gives him final say on who the redskins draft. If the reports that Shanahan wants total control are true, then he's not going anywhere where HE doesn't have final say.

Schefter is tight with Shanahan. Don't know about Glazer per se

1. All about perception I suppose
2. See #1
3. Ok, I'll cede that one for now
4. We have Quinton Ganther you ingoramus!!!!
5. Won't matter if Shanahan is let go by Houston. Plus Houston and Dallas aren't exactly next door (closer than to DC of course). Kyle has a two year old daughter so I don't think it will be an issue to move her.
6. Ok
7. Interesting theory
8. Shanahan won't necessarily get more control in Dallas with Jones continuing to serve as GM

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Schefter is tight with Shanahan. Don't know about Glazer per se

1. All about perception I suppose
2. See #1
3. Ok, I'll cede that one for now
4. We have Quinton Ganther you ingoramus!!!!
5. Won't matter if Shanahan is let go by Houston. Plus Houston and Dallas aren't exactly next door (closer than to DC of course). Kyle has a two year old daughter so I don't think it will be an issue to move her.
6. Ok
7. Interesting theory
8. Shanahan won't necessarily get more control in Dallas with Jones continuing to serve as GM

Is this serious debate or just goofing around I can't tell?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

According to glazer, shanahan wants the Dallas job bad. I'd put our chances of landing him at about 15%

Seriously? The person CLOSEST to Shanahan has consistently said he expects Shanny to be here (Schefter)so why would Glazers report change that?

Plus, as has been pointed out by an insightful poster here, and restated by Mort (damn plagarist):
1. Jones isn't about to give up personnel control-he's more 'meddlesome' than Snyder in actual player acquisitions.
2. Jones isn't looking to spend a ton of money, especially since he owes Garrett more than $5 million over the next couple of years and he's got a buttload of debt from the stadium.
3. Jones wants a younger coach, preferably a college coach (according to Mort on Friday) which Shanahan is not.

Nothing else is going to happen until January 4th so until then just chillax, enjoy the holidays and see what happens.

[SmootSmack]

If Kyle Shanahan gets a head coaching opportunity, I really doubt he'd care if his dad was coaching a team in the same division

[BigHairedAristocrat]

We are redskins fans, so our perception on what franchise is more "elite" is somewhat skewed. I live in North Carolina and pretty much everyone here thinks the skins are a big joke. When I go to sports bars, the most common Jerseys I see, are, of course, Panthers jerseys. Cowboys are a CLOSE #2. Regarding Jone's control in Dalls, he stepped back somewhat when Parcells was coach, i'm sure he would do the same for Shanahan if it became a sticking point.

Even if Jones doesn't view Shanahan as his ideal coach, he simply can't "afford" to let the skins land him. If he did and Jones went with Garret or someother inexperienced HC, Dallas would most certainly be at the bottom of the NFC East for a few years. Putting aside the fact that Jones has alot of pride, loves his team, and wants to win - being in 4th place isn't going to fill that big fancy new stadium to capacity week in and week out.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

We are redskins fans, so our perception on what franchise is more "elite" is somewhat skewed. I live in North Carolina and pretty much everyone here thinks the skins are a big joke. When I go to sports bars, the most common Jerseys I see, are, of course, Panthers jerseys. Cowboys are a CLOSE #2. Regarding Jone's control in Dalls, he stepped back somewhat when Parcells was coach, i'm sure he would do the same for Shanahan if it became a sticking point.

Even if Jones doesn't view Shanahan as his ideal coach, he simply can't "afford" to let the skins land him. If he did and Jones went with Garret or someother inexperienced HC, Dallas would most certainly be at the bottom of the NFC East for a few years. Putting aside the fact that Jones has alot of pride, loves his team, and wants to win - being in 4th place isn't going to fill that big fancy new stadium to capacity week in and week out.

Well it's elite as far as history, tradition and fan base is concerned. Although the new generation of Redskin fans were not around during the glory days. It's not elite when it comes to W's vs. L's since Gibbs 1.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well it's elite as far as history, tradition and fan base is concerned. Although the new generation of Redskin fans were not around during the glory days. It's not elite when it comes to W's vs. L's since Gibbs 1.

Yes. We were elite when we were winning. If we start winning again then we will be elite again.

[skinsfan69]

All this Shanahan talk is really annoying. Zorn is gone, we all know that but until the season is over and Shanahan signs a contract then all this talk is just rumors. No question he's talking with Snyder/Allen but let's just wait til the season is over. We've still got 3 games to play.

[drew54]

Smoot, how much buzz is there about Shanahan going to the Bears if Lovie were to be fired? This would reunite him with Cutler.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by drew54

Smoot, how much buzz is there about Shanahan going to the Bears if Lovie were to be fired? This would reunite him with Cutler.

I've hardly heard any at all

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I've hardly heard any at all

honestly, how much "buzz" was there about allen and dc, say two weeks ago?