Steelers 27 Skins 12 post game thread

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Kindoy

This topic just came up on PTI but i just wanted to beat it to death in case it hasn't been yet. The fact that RG3 lined up at WR and went out for a deep ball and proceeded to get absolutely flattened is ridiculous. That play should have never been called... I don't want my entire franchise getting obliterated because of a stupid play call - just another chance for defenses to take him out.

i like how they said he lined up at wr

could have fooled me.

anyways, i don't think it was a bad call. i think morgan should have thrown it away since griff wasn't wide open, problem solved.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by los panda

i like how they said he lined up at wr

could have fooled me.

anyways, i don't think it was a bad call. i think morgan should have thrown it away since griff wasn't wide open, problem solved.

No. Players shouldn't have to "think" for the coaches for eff sakes. It was a playcall/design you'd expect from Jim Zorn.

Edit: the differing reactions though just floor me, and I can't get over it. Zorn was/would be lambasted by everyone here and the entire media for swining gate, which is the equivelant of what we saw last Sunday. Yet the Shanahans are largely given a pass. I guess that's the benefit given to legacy coaches.

[los panda]

seems as though they edited that, but they did initially say that he lined up at wr

Mike Shanahan feels dumb for failed pass to RG3 | ProFootballTalk

[53Fan]

Shanahan said he should have made it clear to Morgan not to throw the ball unless Griffen was WIDE OPEN. Yeah.....probably.

[MTK]

I don't have a problem with the call either, Morgan just shouldn't have thrown it unless RG was running wide open.

[los panda]

i assumed it was made clear to morgan that he shouldn't throw it unless griff was wide open. i thought that was standard procedure for those type of plays.

if shanny failed to make that clear, that's a big mistake, and it's his - not morgan's

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by los panda

i assumed it was made clear to morgan that he shouldn't throw it unless griff was wide open. i thought that was standard procedure for those type of plays.

if shanny failed to make that clear, that's a big mistake, and it's his - not morgan's

Whether he's open for the catch is irrelavent. One of the hardest hitting safeties in pro football is sitting back there. Just irresponsible (and desperate) to put your franchise QB, the only guy making your offense work, in that position.

Again, the hypocrisy between how fans hold Zorn accountable but not Shanahan is just mind-blowing. If anything, Zorn should be given the benefit of the doubt because he had much less to work with offensively and he was a newer coach. Just mind-blowing...

[los panda]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Whether he's open for the catch is irrelavent. One of the hardest hitting safeties in pro football is sitting back there. Just irresponsible (and desperate) to put your franchise QB, the only guy making your offense work, in that position.

Again, the hypocrisy between how fans hold Zorn accountable but not Shanahan is just mind-blowing. If anything, Zorn should be given the benefit of the doubt because he had much less to work with offensively and he was a newer coach. Just mind-blowing...

if he's wide open, the safety isn't sitting back there...

i just said that if shanny didn't make it clear to morgan (not to throw the ball unless griff was wide open), then he is accountable for that mistake.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Whether he's open for the catch is irrelavent. One of the hardest hitting safeties in pro football is sitting back there. Just irresponsible (and desperate) to put your franchise QB, the only guy making your offense work, in that position.

Again, the hypocrisy between how fans hold Zorn accountable but not Shanahan is just mind-blowing. If anything, Zorn should be given the benefit of the doubt because he had much less to work with offensively and he was a newer coach. Just mind-blowing...

It kinda is relevant. If he's wide open the play is an easy TD and we're probably all singing the praises of the play. Since he wasn't open Morgan should have thrown it away, end of play, he doesn't get hit.

[The Goat]

I guess I have a hard time believing Morgan had the arm to zip it in there w/o giving Clark, again a very tough/quick/smart safety, plenty of time to close and potentially lay a monster hit on the next John Elway. Had they ever seen Morgan throw before? That pass hung in the air long enough for M Williams to get underneath it (ohhhh snap!).

Dumb play. Bad call. C'mon man.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by The Goat

No. Players shouldn't have to "think" for the coaches for eff sakes. It was a playcall/design you'd expect from Jim Zorn.

Edit: the differing reactions though just floor me, and I can't get over it. Zorn was/would be lambasted by everyone here and the entire media for swining gate, which is the equivelant of what we saw last Sunday. Yet the Shanahans are largely given a pass. I guess that's the benefit given to legacy coaches.

I wasnt on the board for the Zorny days. Did he garner any support from anyone?


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[The Goat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I wasnt on the board for the Zorny days. Did he garner any support from anyone?


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I think he logged in as someone else and tried to disrupt the Matrix, but an agent (SmootSmack) tracked him within seconds and banned his digital a$$ into oblivion.

Can't believe I'm still seeing Matrix costumes out here...even the good ones seem stupid.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I wasnt on the board for the Zorny days. Did he garner any support from anyone?


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No.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by los panda

if he's wide open, the safety isn't sitting back there...

i just said that if shanny didn't make it clear to morgan (not to throw the ball unless griff was wide open), then he is accountable for that mistake.

Well when we say wide open do we mean running free in back of the entire teams secondary ( flashback of Cruz - make it stop) because he could be open for the catch with a safety lining up a huge hit - no? Catch - turn - two steps - BANG. Still open for the reception.

Edit: think what Goat is getting at is asking a wr and a qb to change places creates potential for disaster. Ball hangs up. RG-3 being RG-3 and wanting to make the play not worrying about the safety lurking. Even if it is a perfect throw he can still get hammered by the safety lining up a head shot instead of playing the ball ala Laron Landry. Totally agree with Goat and probably so does MS cus i bet we never see it again. Ever.
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[53Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Well when we say wide open do we mean running free in back of the entire teams secondary ( flashback of Cruz - make it stop) because he could be open for the catch with a safety lining up a huge hit - no? Catch - turn - two steps - BANG. Still open for the reception.


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In Mikes defense he ran the same play with Elway 10-15 times. I'm fairly certain he meant very open. As in he would have time to make the reception.
.pick up some yards and head out of bounds if need be. Still with all the hits Grifs been getting and all the talk about it.....well it didn't work and I got pissed off too that he was put in that position.