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11-08-2012, 08:46 PM | #196 |
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Was race a part of the vote? Sure. But lets not pretend it was a one way street.
Less than 60% of whites voted for Romney. More than 90% of blacks voted for Obama. Racism works both ways: there are whites who would never vote for a black and vice versa.
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I do think that's slightly different vs. when i hear people in the south drape themselves with the Confederate flag and call Obama a terrorist n*****. Seen it plenty just down in Charlottesville, VA.
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It's not like Romney was pandering for minority votes anyway. The religious right is much more important.
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11-08-2012, 09:24 PM | #203 |
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In 2008 and 2012 blacks turned out in historic numbers. In 2008, for the first time, the percentage eligible number of black voters who actually voted was the same as the percentage for whites for the first time ever. I would humbly suggest that this surge in black voter turnout was possibly related to something other than a change in the policy stances of the two parties and would not have occurred had the Dems put forth a white candidate in 2008/12.
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11-08-2012, 09:32 PM | #204 |
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Its alive and well everywhere. I got friends here in NJ that say things sometimes that blow my freakin mind. I go in to see customers and some guy ive been dealing with for years will lean over and say "cant believe were gonna have a n$&ger president again". Blows my ****ing mind. Anyone who thinks race doesnt play a huge part in everyday life let alone the elections doesnt get out of the house enough.
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Mirror mirror on the wall...who is the fairest of them all? ...there is another milady.
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11-08-2012, 09:50 PM | #207 |
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Furthermore Obama's ground game and community outreach was beyond reproach. Quite frankly, it is the reason why even more African Americans voted and Latinos voted. This theory that somehow it is because he is black is bankrupt and intellectually lazy. If Herman Cain was running the result would have been the same.
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Your right of course ... only whites can be racist or motivated by impure racial thoughts.
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11-08-2012, 10:30 PM | #210 |
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I don't believe that 93% of blacks agree with the fiscal policies of the democrats, I do believe that 93% of blacks don't trust republicans to look out for their interests. I also believe that while white racism mainly is due to skin color and is fading as the younger generations grow up, black racism is mainly due to lack of trust and that the media works hard to perpetuate that, so that you don't see it receding as quickly as you see white racism is. And for those who want to use personal references, my dad couldn't conceive of me having black friends, when one in 6th grade had a crossed burned in his yard, it was considered acceptable, now, my junior high is named for a champion of the racial equality fight, my son wanted to vote for Obama, and he could care less of what color his friends are (nor do I) and I doubt he even considers it in any fashion.
Yes my dad still struggles with his racist upbringing, my 12 yo daughter had a birthday party at his pool and her friends came over. One young black girl's family dropped her off, and hung around, and my dad struggled - you could see it, but my daughter would never have considered it as a thought pattern at all. Again I believe white racism is shrinking, though I don't deny at all that it exists. On the other side, the perception of racism, and perpetuation of reverse racism is shrinking at an extremely slower rate, and to Saden's point, yes it did occur for a long time, and that does explain a large part, but at some point all sides need to acknowledge that it is in the past and belongs in the past. |
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