Official Redskins Off-Season News & Rumors-Part Trois

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Although the name Redskins is closely associated with the tradition of NFL football in D.C., I'm disturbed by the idea that in today's society we need to preserve a highly recognizable and well-publicized team name and logo that refers to the color of a racial group's skin.

I have no idea of how many people are offended by the team name and perhaps the team logo but there must be some way to resolve this as an issue. I don't have the answer but, as an example, wouldn't a name like The Burgundy & Gold preserve team tradition without the possibility of offending anyone? The team logo could include a landmark that is synonymous with Washington, D.C., such as the Capitol Dome.

I don't understand why so many people, including Dan Snyder, are so intractable about a name change. It's not that big of a deal to me. Just do it, get over it, and move on.

Also, as famous and worthy of being honored as the Tuskeegee Airmen were, the name Red Tails would be no more representative of the Washington, D.C. area than the name Redskins.

While I don't say anyone should go out and purposefully offend someone, it is a ridiculous thought to say that in a society of 300+million, we must try not to offend anyone. The name Redskins has a positive meaning for generations of people, and the level of offense within even the Native American/Indian population is questionable at best based on most surveys.

If the Redskins choose to change their name that's fine, but the notion that for the offense of an extreme minority opinion the government has the right to step in, even though there is no threat of physical harm to the minority, is a ludicrous spin on the role of government.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

While I don't say anyone should go out and purposefully offend someone, it is a ridiculous thought to say that in a society of 300+million, we must try not to offend anyone. The name Redskins has a positive meaning for generations of people, and the level of offense within even the Native American/Indian population is questionable at best based on most surveys.

If the Redskins choose to change their name that's fine, but the notion that for the offense of an extreme minority opinion the government has the right to step in, even though there is no threat of physical harm to the minority, is a ludicrous spin on the role of government.

Solid post, especially the last line.

We're electing a Government that wants to control every little aspect of our lives, from what we eat and what we drive to...the name of our football teams?

Robert's right...that is the birth of tyranny. Before we know it, they'll have themselves entrenched into our lives so severely that it will be too late to escape. The worst part, with our uninformed or just naive votes, we did it to ourselves. The power of the Government handout is amazing.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

While I don't say anyone should go out and purposefully offend someone, it is a ridiculous thought to say that in a society of 300+million, we must try not to offend anyone. The name Redskins has a positive meaning for generations of people, and the level of offense within even the Native American/Indian population is questionable at best based on most surveys.

If the Redskins choose to change their name that's fine, but the notion that for the offense of an extreme minority opinion the government has the right to step in, even though there is no threat of physical harm to the minority, is a ludicrous spin on the role of government.

+100000000

Couldn't have said it better myself. And I agree with Monkeydad as well. People need to stop finding things to get offended about. And as for those REDSKINS fans who are FOR the name change, don't give me the "it's not a big deal, just change the name" speech. If it's not a big deal, then there is no reason to change the name and keep bringing it up.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

+100000000

And as for those REDSKINS fans who are FOR the name change, don't give me the "it's not a big deal, just change the name" speech. If it's not a big deal, then there is no reason to change the name and keep bringing it up.

The fact that it would not be a big deal to me if the name were changed does not mean that there is no reason to change it. I think there are a number of good reasons for the team to change it. Some of them are simply practical business reasons. Like you, Dan Snyder may wish that opposition to the name would just go away - but it won't.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Man.. if we were called the red tails. I might switch teams lol

Might?

[Redskin Jim]

RGIII: Americans ‘Held Hostage By The Tyranny Of Political Correctness’ « CBS DC

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

RGIII: Americans ‘Held Hostage By The Tyranny Of Political Correctness’ « CBS DC

Griffin is so awesome.

Redskins Star QB RGIII Blasts ‘Tyranny of Political Correctness’ — The Left Freaks Out | TheBlaze.com

Several of the criticisms hurled at Griffin seemingly accuse the QB of not knowing the definition of “tyranny.” Because they failed to understand the meaning behind his words, Griffin later felt compelled to explain to outraged Twitter users that “tyranny” has more than one meaning. He also followed up with a fitting quote following the angry response to his tweet: “If we speak..we say it the wrong way If we do not speak we are cowards….”

Tyranny- "a condition imposed by some outside agency or force <living under the tyranny of the clock" or political correctness....

Reminds me when Method Man corrected Bart on the use of peace as an interjection.

Silas P. Silas (Character) - Quotes

[Monkeydad]

I really hope to God the President doesn't get involved in this issue. We can all guess where he'll side in a racial debate...with the small minority of complainers.

[KI Skins Fan]

Monkeydad,

I'm not talking about the larger issue of liberals gone wild. You might be surprised to know that I largely agree with you on that point.

But I think you've gone off the track when you suggest that the names Cotton Balls and Cheesburgers could cause as much furor as the name Redskins. Any equivalent names would refer to skin color and race, such as Whiteskins, Blackskins, Brownskins, or Yellowskins. Who doesn't know that race is a hot button in our society? So I think it would be better for a business like the Washington Redskins to try to avoid contoversial societal issues altogether.

The bottom line for me is that it would not bother me if Dan Snyder were to change the team name.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Monkeydad,

I'm not talking about the larger issue of liberals gone wild. You might be surprised to know that I largely agree with you on that point.

But I think you've gone off the track when you suggest that the names Cotton Balls and Cheesburgers could cause as much furor as the name Redskins. Any equivalent names would refer to skin color and race, such as Whiteskins, Blackskins, Brownskins, or Yellowskins. Who doesn't know that race is a hot button in our society? So I think it would be better for a business like the Washington Redskins to try to avoid contoversial societal issues altogether.

The bottom line for me is that it would not bother me if Dan Snyder were to change the team name.

If it were bad for business the Redskins would have changed it in a heartbeat.

[cdskins26]

Knowing full well how much our fan base has come to resent any head-cases, would anybody think about possibly trying to poach Blackmon off of Jacksonville in the near future? If we could buy low he could become a star with our team.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by cdskins26

Knowing full well how much our fan base has come to resent any head-cases, would anybody think about possibly trying to poach Blackmon off of Jacksonville in the near future? If we could buy low he could become a star with our team.

Then he throws a birthday bash for himself and we lose half our roster!

He's a stud when on the field. When...

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

If it were bad for business the Redskins would have changed it in a heartbeat.

You know what would be bad for Snyder's business? A rebrand.

It's a huge expense from the team uniforms, the merchandise, the stadium, all promotional/marketing materials, the copyrights and trademarks with legal fees and likely a lot of things we can't even imagine that need changed.

On top of that, you risk losing a lot of fans, especially the long-time fans who are angered by the change.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Monkeydad,

I'm not talking about the larger issue of liberals gone wild. You might be surprised to know that I largely agree with you on that point.

But I think you've gone off the track when you suggest that the names Cotton Balls and Cheesburgers could cause as much furor as the name Redskins. Any equivalent names would refer to skin color and race, such as Whiteskins, Blackskins, Brownskins, or Yellowskins. Who doesn't know that race is a hot button in our society? So I think it would be better for a business like the Washington Redskins to try to avoid contoversial societal issues altogether.

The bottom line for me is that it would not bother me if Dan Snyder were to change the team name.

Then you might as well change the name of the Vikings.
Then you might as well change the name of the Cowboys.
Then you might as well change the name of the Buccaneers.
Then you might as well change the name of the Fighting Irish.
Then you might as well change the name of the Raiders.
Then you might as well change the name of the Browns.
Then you might as well change the name of the Chiefs.
Then you might as well change the name of the Patriots.
Then you might as well change the name of the Pirates.

The list can go on and on. Most of those I listed are groups that were considered violent toward other ethnic groups, name of a color, or glorifying people who commit crimes. So let's just change anything and everything in our history and culture that may offend someone, so that we can all walk together on eggshells happy and gleeful. [/sarcasm]

[MTK]

This whole thing with tyranny is a little much. If the name changes it's not going to lead to the downfall of civilization.