Lavar Gone

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-06-2006, 10:41 PM

If someone had told me a few seasons ago that Champ, Smoot, Coles, and Arrington would be gone, I would have told them they were crazy.

MTK · 03-06-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

If someone had told me a few seasons ago that Champ, Smoot, Coles, and Arrington would be gone, I would have told them they were crazy.

Yeah I would have been pretty shocked too, but if that same person said but Joe Gibbs will be our head coach again I would have hmmmm ok, fair enough trade-off!!

MTK · 03-07-2006, 10:25 AM

Saying he didn't play within the system isn't hating, it's the truth. Ask any of his coaches going back to Penn State, that's always been the constant knock on his game. He relies too heavily on his natural abilities, that's fine for some coordinators but obviously it's not what Gregg Williams and the rest of our defensive staff wants.

Best of luck to him, but I don't think he'll be missed around here. He missed a large part of the past two years and our defense has been just fine.

redskins5044 · 03-07-2006, 10:40 AM

Lavar has passion for the game. He biggest problem was the redskins prior to gibbs he had a differnt d-coordinator almost every year and never got comfortable in any system. He loved the skins. if anybody in here went to a home game last season even when he wasnt playing he getting the crowd pumped up. i remember before the philly game on sunday night before kick-off they showed him on the big screen in the stadium and Fed-Ex got pumped up even more. I hate to see him go because i dont want to have to play him twice a year he is going to be out to prove the skins wrong about his ability.

BigSKINBauer · 03-07-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Best of luck to him, but I don't think he'll be missed around here. He missed a large part of the past two years and our defense has been just fine.

I was just talking about this with someone. I have yet to go Oh shit we lost lavar now the team will suck. If we lost a randy thomas, a chris cooley, santana, portis, marcus, lamar, sean, Grif, Jansen, Samuels, or even ryan clark, joe salavea, Doc, Rabach, sellers, or Carlos I would Say OH SHIT WE LOST THEM NOW WE ARE GOING TO SUCK. Obviously one player couldn't ruin a team but I would say we lost someone who was benefiting the team. I would be scared that the team would get worse without them. I don't feel that way about lavar. The only place he will be missed is in the hearts of redskin fans, but not on the field.

I think that is surprising. I feel we lost someone important to the team but i don't feel he really mattered in production.

Redskins_P · 03-07-2006, 12:02 PM

Word is that Antonio Pierce is making a big push to sign Lavar....

http://www.nj.com/giants/ledger/inde...310.xml&coll=1

RobH4413 · 03-07-2006, 12:09 PM

My uncle is an orthopedic surgeon who's talked to those close with his knee conditon. He seems to believe his career is nearing an end. If you take a hard look at him last season you can see he lost a step. I think it was a good move to release him.... Arrington has the heart of a lion, but with a bum knee I think he'll trickle away.

RedskinPete · 03-07-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Word is that Antonio Pierce is making a big push to sign Lavar....

http://www.nj.com/giants/ledger/inde...310.xml&coll=1

YES i SAW THE SAME THING AS ARRINGTON say HE LIKE TO GO TO A TEAM THAT WOULD ALLOW HIM to Play a game in DC area! Dose that mean a NFC East foe?

BigSKINBauer · 03-07-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinPete

YES i SAW THE SAME THING AS ARRINGTON say HE LIKE TO GO TO A TEAM THAT WOULD ALLOW HIM to Play a game in DC area! Dose that mean a NFC East foe?

when asked where do you want to play he said in the NFC EAST. Straight out. He said he oculdn't wear a dallas jersey but I think he has a great chance at either NY or Philly. After that it goes to the chargers, vikings, browns, cinci, pittsburg, maybe even the dolphins.

STPainmaker · 03-07-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Word is that Antonio Pierce is making a big push to sign Lavar....

http://www.nj.com/giants/ledger/inde...310.xml&coll=1

Fu@K Antonio Muther fu#K'n Pierce. Piece'o' blue terd.

#56fanatic · 03-07-2006, 12:20 PM

Players know when someone is good or over hyped. LaVar is a good LB. Alot of teams will be begging the coach or GM to go out and get him. Especially ones who have played with him(pierce, trotter) Whether or not he played within this system or that system, to say he didn't like doing this or didn't like doing that is hear say. Show me a coach saying he didn't study film, or he didn't work on this or that. I do believe I heard Joe and GW last year praising him for his work in the film room and practice field.(when he started playing) I agree with one guy out here,forgot your ID man, we will miss LaVar more as a Redskin than what he has actually done on the field the last two years. there is no debate we played pretty damn good without him. However, I feel sorry for those who have doubted his ability lately. He is going to prove alot of people wrong, and I have a feeling he will purposely chose and NFC east team so he can stick it in Joes, GW, and Dannys ass every time they play us.

freddyg12 · 03-07-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Players know when someone is good or over hyped. LaVar is a good LB. Alot of teams will be begging the coach or GM to go out and get him. Especially ones who have played with him(pierce, trotter) Whether or not he played within this system or that system, to say he didn't like doing this or didn't like doing that is hear say. Show me a coach saying he didn't study film, or he didn't work on this or that. I do believe I heard Joe and GW last year praising him for his work in the film room and practice field.(when he started playing) I agree with one guy out here,forgot your ID man, we will miss LaVar more as a Redskin than what he has actually done on the field the last two years. there is no debate we played pretty damn good without him. However, I feel sorry for those who have doubted his ability lately. He is going to prove alot of people wrong, and I have a feeling he will purposely chose and NFC east team so he can stick it in Joes, GW, and Dannys ass every time they play us.

I agree, I think he'll play better for someone now (as I'd posted earlier) that he'll have something to prove & will likely be more disciplined. Wish he could've stayed here & grown up as a professional more.
As for film study, see Trotter's comments from last year - he said that 'if Lavar studied film & treated the job as a pro', he would great. Sad thing is, this might be lavar's wakeup call.

That Guy · 03-07-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Players know when someone is good or over hyped. LaVar is a good LB. Alot of teams will be begging the coach or GM to go out and get him. Especially ones who have played with him(pierce, trotter) Whether or not he played within this system or that system, to say he didn't like doing this or didn't like doing that is hear say. Show me a coach saying he didn't study film, or he didn't work on this or that. I do believe I heard Joe and GW last year praising him for his work in the film room and practice field.(when he started playing) I agree with one guy out here,forgot your ID man, we will miss LaVar more as a Redskin than what he has actually done on the field the last two years. there is no debate we played pretty damn good without him. However, I feel sorry for those who have doubted his ability lately. He is going to prove alot of people wrong, and I have a feeling he will purposely chose and NFC east team so he can stick it in Joes, GW, and Dannys ass every time they play us.

its also possible a player is good and overhyped. He talked to the media a lot, he's a good tv personality, so people get more attached to him than to what he actually provides on the field day in and day out.

lindsey trashed him, lewis said he was the hardest player he's ever coached, gibbs said he's talked to lavar more than anyone. at penn state they complained about it too. trotter and him DIDN'T get along well. his ability lately hasn't been great cause he was slow last year compared to his pre-injury speed.

Sociofan · 03-07-2006, 12:16 PM

I think that part of the conflict here is that while all of us put our hearts into the Skins, there are also certain players out there that many of us pull for independent of teams: Arrington, Bettis, Donovan McNabb, Warrick Dunn. Guys who are terrific players and great men. It sucks to see one of them get caught in a position like this. I'm a big fan of Lavar as much for his character as for his animal instincts on the field. I just wish things could have worked out here for him and that we could have kept such a "character guy" as one of the Redskin faces. We might find another player who can step in and play, but there is more to a guy like Lavar than just QB Kills. Like I said before, it will be strange seeing HIM in a different uniform.

Riggo44 · 03-07-2006, 03:10 PM

Even though I new it was coming. Lavar was my favorite player. So it's a sad day in Redskins land for me.
I wish the best for Lavar. I wish he could go home to Pittsburgh,but the Steelers are cheap when it comes to paying players. So I really don't see that happening. I'm just Praying Arrington stays out of the NFC East. And away from Redskin QB's.
Good luck Lavar. Thanks for being a bright spot and leader threw some bad years. You will be missed.

View Poll Results: How do you feel about LaVar's release?
It's good, he was overrated, expensive, and distracting	28	16.77%
It's good and we needed the cap room	21	12.57%
It sucks, but we needed the cap room	75	44.91%
It sucks, he was the face of our team for years	43	25.75%
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03-06-2006, 10:41 PM	#1
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Lavar Gone If someone had told me a few seasons ago that Champ, Smoot, Coles, and Arrington would be gone, I would have told them they were crazy.

03-07-2006, 10:25 AM	#3
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Lavar Gone Saying he didn't play within the system isn't hating, it's the truth. Ask any of his coaches going back to Penn State, that's always been the constant knock on his game. He relies too heavily on his natural abilities, that's fine for some coordinators but obviously it's not what Gregg Williams and the rest of our defensive staff wants. Best of luck to him, but I don't think he'll be missed around here. He missed a large part of the past two years and our defense has been just fine. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-07-2006, 10:40 AM	#4
redskins5044 Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Schertz, Tx Age: 46 Posts: 3,224	Re: Lavar Gone Lavar has passion for the game. He biggest problem was the redskins prior to gibbs he had a differnt d-coordinator almost every year and never got comfortable in any system. He loved the skins. if anybody in here went to a home game last season even when he wasnt playing he getting the crowd pumped up. i remember before the philly game on sunday night before kick-off they showed him on the big screen in the stadium and Fed-Ex got pumped up even more. I hate to see him go because i dont want to have to play him twice a year he is going to be out to prove the skins wrong about his ability.

03-07-2006, 12:02 PM	#6
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,101	Re: Lavar Gone Word is that Antonio Pierce is making a big push to sign Lavar.... http://www.nj.com/giants/ledger/inde...310.xml&coll=1

03-07-2006, 12:09 PM	#7
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 41 Posts: 2,638	Re: Lavar Gone My uncle is an orthopedic surgeon who's talked to those close with his knee conditon. He seems to believe his career is nearing an end. If you take a hard look at him last season you can see he lost a step. I think it was a good move to release him.... Arrington has the heart of a lion, but with a bum knee I think he'll trickle away.

03-07-2006, 12:20 PM	#11
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Lavar Gone Players know when someone is good or over hyped. LaVar is a good LB. Alot of teams will be begging the coach or GM to go out and get him. Especially ones who have played with him(pierce, trotter) Whether or not he played within this system or that system, to say he didn't like doing this or didn't like doing that is hear say. Show me a coach saying he didn't study film, or he didn't work on this or that. I do believe I heard Joe and GW last year praising him for his work in the film room and practice field.(when he started playing) I agree with one guy out here,forgot your ID man, we will miss LaVar more as a Redskin than what he has actually done on the field the last two years. there is no debate we played pretty damn good without him. However, I feel sorry for those who have doubted his ability lately. He is going to prove alot of people wrong, and I have a feeling he will purposely chose and NFC east team so he can stick it in Joes, GW, and Dannys ass every time they play us.

03-07-2006, 12:16 PM	#14
Sociofan Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Gainesville, VA Age: 61 Posts: 380	Re: Lavar Gone I think that part of the conflict here is that while all of us put our hearts into the Skins, there are also certain players out there that many of us pull for independent of teams: Arrington, Bettis, Donovan McNabb, Warrick Dunn. Guys who are terrific players and great men. It sucks to see one of them get caught in a position like this. I'm a big fan of Lavar as much for his character as for his animal instincts on the field. I just wish things could have worked out here for him and that we could have kept such a "character guy" as one of the Redskin faces. We might find another player who can step in and play, but there is more to a guy like Lavar than just QB Kills. Like I said before, it will be strange seeing HIM in a different uniform.

03-07-2006, 03:10 PM	#15
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 52 Posts: 2,390	Re: Lavar Gone Even though I new it was coming. Lavar was my favorite player. So it's a sad day in Redskins land for me. I wish the best for Lavar. I wish he could go home to Pittsburgh,but the Steelers are cheap when it comes to paying players. So I really don't see that happening. I'm just Praying Arrington stays out of the NFC East. And away from Redskin QB's. Good luck Lavar. Thanks for being a bright spot and leader threw some bad years. You will be missed. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

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