Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess

[NC_Skins]

Jason Cole ‏ @JasonColeYahoo

Just to add to reports of Wash/Dall appeal on sal cap pens ... NFLPA was secretly hoping for this as way to get more evidence of collusion.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

"I thought the penalties imposed were proper," Mara said. "What they did was in violation of the spirit of the salary cap. They attempted to take advantage of a one-year loophole, and quite frankly, I think they're lucky they didn't lose draft picks."

This literally made me LOL. EVERYTHING you said in there in no way relates to illegal activity or rule-breaking. "Spirit" and "loophole" are the two words he might have wanted to re-think. He just sounds stupid there.

Have we ever found out the person in charge of the whole vote or whatever it was that ended up costing us the money?

I'd like to know what salary cap we violated the spirit of.

[Gtothearry]

What's gonna be funny is when the NFL gives us Cap space back but then takes away picks over the G. Williams scandal as retaliation for arbitration.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Gtothearry

What's gonna be funny is when the NFL gives us Cap space back but then takes away picks over the G. Williams scandal as retaliation for arbitration.

Not sure how many times this has to be repeated, but we have already been cleared.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Gtothearry

What's gonna be funny is when the NFL gives us Cap space back but then takes away picks over the G. Williams scandal as retaliation for arbitration.

Yes it will be funny since Goodell has already said while GW was with the Skins there was no bounty type system in place.

Look the reason the Saints got hammered was because Goodell contacted the Saints 3 seperate times in regards to the bounty and all 3 times the Saints LIED and denied there was any form of bounty. Thats why they got hammered.

But... your right it will get interesting if they do what you said because they have already come out and said unless there is other information their investigation has shown the Skins didn't have a bounty system. There was a system but a bounty system is when you in advance set a $ amount to have someone taken out of a game.

and as I've said before I can't recall any plays where our defense has hit someone and put them out of a game and the hit looked questionable. The PManning hit if I recall Fletcher was going to hit him chest level and PM lowered his stance as in flinching or tried to duck away from the hit and yes I think Fletcher hit him in the shoulder and lower helmet jaw area causing issue's with his neck. Not on purpose though.

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Not sure how many times this has to be repeated, but we have already been cleared.

Wrong. We currently have been cleared but if new details come out in the future the NFL reserves the right to place a punishment at that point.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Exactly. If we don't get SOMETHING for this, it's going to be a damn travesty.

[Chico23231]

What are the ramifications if its was found to be a bogus punishment? It obviously have hurt us in the free agency period. I would think they would have to give us the cap room back and then some type of cap "credit" for damages

[mbedner3420]

I'm starting to hate the giants more than I hate the cowboys... What is going on? ****ing John Mara...

[Chief X_Phackter]

So what do they do with the redistributed $$$ if they give the penalty $$$ back to us/DAL? Most teams have probably already spent that $$$.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

So what do they do with the redistributed $$$ if they give the penalty $$$ back to us/DAL? Most teams have probably already spent that $$$.

Make the miggets pay it.

[SKINSnCANES]

I feel like the money isn't enough at this point, they owe the Skins and Cowboys picks, clearly more to the skins or higher round due to the severity. Other than redoing free agency, which would never happen, theres no way other than draft picks to make up for the fact they essentially missed out on free agency.

[JoeRedskin]

Mara's comment that we took advantage of a "loophole in the salary cap" is inane. Hey John, newsflash, there was no salary cap to have a loophole.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Mara's comment that we took advantage of a "loophole in the salary cap" is inane. Hey John, newsflash, there was no salary cap to have a loophole.

Come on JR, you know good and well he meant a loophole in their illegal collusion. :cheeky-sm


IS THERE NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES?????

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

IS THERE NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES?????

This my friend is the best example of exactly what the issue is.

What baffles me is how the players not the NFLPA who reps them but the players themselves are not up in arms about their DSmith agreeing to such a deal. Ok the deal was made, but what if each individual player started filing their own law suit saying that they don't agree with the agreement DSmith made with the owners not to go after them. Were talking about hundereds of millions of dollars they could win. Not just 46mill.

If I was DSmith I would have said go ahead and lower the CAP and you will definitely see a law suit for collusion for more then the 46mill you want to punish your counterparts for. He had the league over the barrel also. He should have told them he would have to take it to the next players meeting and let them vote on it. The problem was that it would have taken too long and not effected what we did. The committee wanted to effect what we could do this year. and they did.