2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

You said he's been talking about plenty of issues. I asked "Like what?".

Claiming to have to dig through campaign footage to find Obama actually talking about issues, and seeing how Obama's going almost totally negative campaigning on TV ads, speaks for itself. Doesn't it?

Dude, I'm not your personal Obama surrogate. Take your ass on the internet and find out. Go to whitehouse.gov. Nearly every fcuking day he's talking to voters at events and townhall meetings.

[12thMan]

Aiight, so here's the skinny. Seriously.

Turns out there are two Churchill busts. Yep. One was a gift during the Nixon administration and has remained a part of the White House's official art collection since. It's the one in the White House photo with Obama and Cameron.

The other, which was loaned to George Bush after 9/11, was already scheduled to go back before Obama arrived and is at the British Embassy.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Aiight, so here's the skinny. Seriously.

Turns out there are two Churchill busts. Yep. One was a gift during the Nixon administration and has remained a part of the White House's official are collection since. It's the one in the White House photo with Obama and Cameron.

The other, which was loaned to George Bush after 9/11, was already scheduled to go back before Obama arrived and is at the British Embassy.

LOL....so for almost 10 years there were two busts of Churchill in the White House?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by saden1

LOL....so for almost 10 years there were two busts of Churchill in the White House?

Yep, by the same artist. Sir Jacob Epstein. Crazy shit.

Is the Churchill Bust Controversy A Total Bust? - ABC News

[mlmpetert]

Well im as surprised as everyone else. Im glad theres an end to this story finally. But to be nitpicky:

‘The bust of Sir Winston Churchill by Sir Jacob Epstein was uniquely lent to a foreign head of state, President George W Bush, from the Government Art Collection in the wake of 9/11 as a signal of the strong transatlantic relationship. It was lent for the first term of office of President Bush. When the President was elected for his second and final term, the loan was extended until January 2009.

The new President has decided not to continue this loan and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the Ambassador’s Residence.”

1) Maybe a language barrier of sorts? The whole bust thing was a resonable sized story/lure in America AND in Brittin for several years. Rightfully so or not, doesnt really matter. Why the hell did the Embassy never clairify their remarks?

2) So The White House blog and "fact" checker is just some kid with the internet? WTF, youd think he would have some kind of inside information and be posting real stuff. This fact checking kid is spreading more mis-information than anyone else. He's striaght up wrong on many things. His update doesnt even acknowlege that hes wrong, it just states info that he could have got from perusing the Debating With the Enemy section of his faviort Redskins forum. Jesus.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Well im as surprised as everyone else. Im glad theres an end to this story finally. But to be nitpicky:



1) Maybe a language barrier of sorts? The whole bust thing was a resonable sized story/lure in America AND in Brittin for several years. Rightfully so or not, doesnt really matter. Why the hell did the Embassy never clairify their remarks?

2) So The White House blog and "fact" checker is just some kid with the internet? WTF, youd think he would have some kind of inside information and be posting real stuff. This fact checking kid is spreading more mis-information than anyone else. He's striaght up wrong on many things. His update doesnt even acknowlege that hes wrong, it just states info that he could have got from perusing the Debating With the Enemy section of his faviort Redskins forum. Jesus.

No, Dan Pffeifer is the White House Communications Director. He posts blogs at the White House on site occasionally. Been around for years.

The original bust on loan from Nixon was being worked on for a while and the Brits decided to "loan" the match to Bush until the end of his term. It's custom to return all art and such at the end of each of administration. What's being missed in all of this, at some point the original bust was returned to the "residence" and there were two. When O took office they sent the other one down the street.

The end.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Well im as surprised as everyone else. Im glad theres an end to this story finally.

Yeah...like the birth certificate story.




No wait...

[12thMan]

I think Pfeiffer's intent was to needle Krauthammer a bit, that's it.

[12thMan]

What President Obama's doing in the White House every day.

President's Schedule - July 22 to July 28, 2012 | The White House

[firstdown]

Taxes are not at an all time low SPENDING Is AT AN ALL TIME HIGH.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Taxes are not at an all time low SPENDING Is AT AN ALL TIME HIGH.

Where do you get this stuff from?

Federal revenues will only consume 14.4 percent of GDP this year – the lowest percentage since 1950. The postwar average is about 18.5 percent and there were many very prosperous years when revenues were considerably higher. In the late 1990s, they averaged more than 20 percent of GDP, which was a key reason why we ran budget surpluses. (not me quoting)

As far as spending, federal spending has grown at it's slowest pace since President Ike. The idea that Obama has grown gov't is a myth. You're confusing structural deficit with actual spending by Obama.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Where do you get this stuff from?

Federal revenues will only consume 14.4 percent of GDP this year – the lowest percentage since 1950. The postwar average is about 18.5 percent and there were many very prosperous years when revenues were considerably higher. In the late 1990s, they averaged more than 20 percent of GDP, which was a key reason why we ran budget surpluses. (not me quoting)

As far as spending, federal spending has grown at it's slowest pace since President Ike. The idea that Obama has grown gov't is a myth. You're confusing structural deficit with actual spending by Obama.

What the hell are you smoking today.

[firstdown]

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

What the hell are you smoking today.

FD,
This has been posted several times. Keep up please.


Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes


NEXT.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

FD,
This has been posted several times. Keep up please.


Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes


NEXT.

That article is putting Obama's 800 billion stimulas on Bush Because he passed it in 2009.

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