Skins/Giants post game thread

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

And he's screwed up a lot this year two. A ton of the same mistakes.

The cap penalty can't be an excuse. It sucks, but it is what it is. We went from having an unfathomable amount of cap room to a realistic amount. That should not break a season.

Ok give me the screw ups this year.

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Cap penalty probably cost us Carr.

Cortland finnegan would of been nice i sure miss the 4-3 D.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Division

Lol Just checking. Will have to wait a while longer for it. Thats all. Just got one for my birthday anyway so barring some unforseen coffee accident your off the hook. When we win the division of course.


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[RGIII]

Manning and Cruz said that they saw the coverage pre-snap. That makes me mad because Haslett and Raheem has to know their players strenghts and weaknesses. The players have to know too.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Did people in this thread really expect playoffs this year? For the realistic fans, this team is really getting better. Best rookie QB since?

When is it reasonable to expect playoffs? This is year 3. Next year is year four and you have the built in excuses of 1) not having a first round pick, and 2) still having the cap penalty. So I guess no playoffs next year either.

Bottom line, if this team can't get it done, there should be changes. Today doesn't have to be a huge setback, but the Redskins have a history of letting these become setbacks.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Pretty sure criticizing Shanahan and allen does not mean wanting Cerrato and Snyder running things. It just means Shanahan has proven he's as bad here as he was in Denver when he got fired for being a bad football coach. and Allen is just as bad a GM here as he was in Tampa bay.

I didnt realize that winning 2 SB's was the sign of a bad coach. I guess you learn something new every day.

Tampa was also in bad shape when Allen arrived. They were like us with being old and overpriced. And no one there wanted to put in the work anymore since they had a shiny SB ring from a couple years earlier. They were not in the playoffs the year before he arrived. He dropped the dead weight, got them younger, cheaper, and back into the playoffs. Yeah sounds terrible...

If you want to criticize them here, thats fine. But to make the comparisons that you do either means you arent paying attention or are letting hatred blind you.

They took over a team that was bad and in cap trouble. I have criticized Shanny as well, mainly for thinking he could win now when he first showed up. But we are finally heading in the right direction, and we all know if Shanny is fired, that Snyder is taking back over.

They are also operating with 19-20 mil less cap space than just about everyone else. About the cost of a good secondary.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Cap penalty probably cost us Carr.

The year one cap differences between Carr and Garçon were negligible. Had to make a choice.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

When is it reasonable to expect playoffs? This is year 3. Next year is year four and you have the built in excuses of 1) not having a first round pick, and 2) still having the cap penalty. So I guess no playoffs next year either.

Bottom line, if this team can't get it done, there should be changes. Today doesn't have to be a huge setback, but the Redskins have a history of letting these become setbacks.

Yep fire all the coaches, sounds like a plan. Lets just pretend this year #1 with Shanahan, he's not going anywhere after the season. We have a rookie QB, building from the ground up starting from this year not 2 years ago.

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

When is it reasonable to expect playoffs? This is year 3. Next year is year four and you have the built in excuses of 1) not having a first round pick, and 2) still having the cap penalty. So I guess no playoffs next year either.

Bottom line, if this team can't get it done, there should be changes. Today doesn't have to be a huge setback, but the Redskins have a history of letting these become setbacks.

Looking at the roster and being realistic about what they still need. You can't fix a decade of bad drafting in a couple seasons.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

And he's screwed up a lot this year two. A ton of the same mistakes.

The cap penalty can't be an excuse. It sucks, but it is what it is. We went from having an unfathomable amount of cap room to a realistic amount. That should not break a season.

So you saying having Finnegan on this squad wouldn't have helped this year?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

And to be clear, I am NOT calling for Haslett's head. The more I watch, the more it seems like he is doing his best to make lemon ade out of a bunch of lemons.

Since there seems to be confusion as to whether it is Haz or the players ( we all know it is a combo of both) i wanted to ask two things.
1) does Haz's track record in the league have anything to do with your coclusion that he is making lemonade?
2) since we are ranked dead last in defense can we really call it lemonade, or is he making something far less refreshing than said lemonade with these lemons?


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[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The year one cap differences between Carr and Garçon were negligible. Had to make a choice.

Whoever signed first may have taken the other one out of being possible though.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

When is it reasonable to expect playoffs? This is year 3. Next year is year four and you have the built in excuses of 1) not having a first round pick, and 2) still having the cap penalty. So I guess no playoffs next year either.

Bottom line, if this team can't get it done, there should be changes. Today doesn't have to be a huge setback, but the Redskins have a history of letting these become setbacks.

Well our issue, as you've noted in the past, seems to be more about talent acquisition and less about coaching. The lack of secondary talent at this point falls squarely on Shanny's shoulders. The mere act of letting Landry go with no reasonable plan to replace him is irresponsible to me. It's one thing to let him go because you've got a younger cheaper healthier player who can approximate the production but we replaced him with a bunch of castoffs and journeymen. Baffling.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Looking at the roster and being realistic about what they still need. You can't fix a decade of bad drafting in a couple seasons.

Some people can't grasp that, lets just fire everyone.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

So you saying having Finnegan on this squad wouldn't have helped this year?

Well. We wouldn't of lost against the Rams at least.