Steelers 27 Skins 12 post game thread

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

In Mikes defense he ran the same play with Elway 10-15 times. I'm fairly certain he meant very open. As in he would have time to make the reception.
.pick up some yards and head out of bounds if need be. Still with all the hits Grifs been getting and all the talk about it.....well it didn't work and I got pissed off too that he was put in that position.

Im kind of like you. It wasnt just Elway who ran it, Brady and P. Manning have as well, multiple times, and those guys are as slow as dirt.

Having said that, it was still a stupid call. You cant ask a WR running to the opposite side of the field to read the defense before throwing. If you run the play, the WR throws it regardless, its a feast or famine play. If they want RG3 to have the ball more, then it needs to be something like a play action bootleg with a run/pass option. Im nervous about him running so much, but being a receiver is not going to work. As a runner, he can to some degree protect himself. Kind of difficult to protect yourself when your eyes are looking back at a wounded duck of a pass.

Most safeties are taking that hit regardless of whether it will be a clean shot or not. If im a defender, and the hit on an opposing QB that is playing as well as RG3 presents itself even if I cant make it a clean hit, im taking the hit and the 15 yard penalty. Im sure most, if not all, NFL defensive players will gladly take it as well.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Im kind of like you. It wasnt just Elway who ran it, Brady and P. Manning have as well, multiple times, and those guys are as slow as dirt.

Having said that, it was still a stupid call. You cant ask a WR running to the opposite side of the field to read the defense before throwing. If you run the play, the WR throws it regardless, its a feast or famine play. If they want RG3 to have the ball more, then it needs to be something like a play action bootleg with a run/pass option. Im nervous about him running so much, but being a receiver is not going to work. As a runner, he can to some degree protect himself. Kind of difficult to protect yourself when your eyes are looking back at a wounded duck of a pass.

Most safeties are taking that hit regardless of whether it will be a clean shot or not. If im a defender, and the hit on an opposing QB that is playing as well as RG3 presents itself even if I cant make it a clean hit, im taking the hit and the 15 yard penalty. Im sure most, if not all, NFL defensive players will gladly take it as well.

If I'm on the defense and have a chance to take Griffin out of the game? You better know I'm gonna do it! Couldn't agree more.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I think he logged in as someone else and tried to disrupt the Matrix, but an agent (SmootSmack) tracked him within seconds and banned his digital a$$ into oblivion.

Can't believe I'm still seeing Matrix costumes out here...even the good ones seem stupid.

Eff me man. Halloween is such an after thought up here. Its my favorite damn holiday and im stuck in the aftermath of that bitch Sandy.


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[The Goat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Eff me man. Halloween is such an after thought up here. Its my favorite damn holiday and im stuck in the aftermath of that bitch Sandy.


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How's your neighborhood punch? I've heard it varies a lot and hope you didn't get the worst of it!!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

In Mikes defense he ran the same play with Elway 10-15 times. I'm fairly certain he meant very open. As in he would have time to make the reception.
.pick up some yards and head out of bounds if need be. Still with all the hits Grifs been getting and all the talk about it.....well it didn't work and I got pissed off too that he was put in that position.

Do you remember if it worked with Elway? Id imagine it must have if he tried it a dozen times -
Also that is an awful lot to ask Morgan - hey - go play qb - and make sure you have a really good read on the safety early enough to make a snap decision whether to throw it away or not. ? Now dont get RG-3 killed - no pressure - oh and we really need this to work - again no pressure. Lol.


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[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Do you remember if it worked with Elway? Id imagine it must have if he tried it a dozen times -
Also that is an awful lot to ask Morgan - hey - go play qb - and make sure you have a really good read on the safety early enough to make a snap decision whether to throw it away or not. ? Now dont get RG-3 killed - no pressure - oh and we really need this to work - again no pressure. Lol.


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All Morgan had to do is read man or zone. Not that hard. He does it all the time playing WR.

[The Goat]

Well, if you know Morgan can zing it in there so RG3 isn't a sitting duck then go for it all day, but watching the pass hang like that it's hard to imagine Morgan having the ability. Maybe he does?

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Originally Posted by The Goat

How's your neighborhood punch? I've heard it varies a lot and hope you didn't get the worst of it!!

House is intact. No power. Got places to go that do have power. Making the best of it. Still worried about a couple friends that live on the beach. Waiting to hear from them. No master list for the shelters and people keep getting moved so its hard to see if they are ok. Stayin positive man. Thanks for askin.


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

All Morgan had to do is read man or zone. Not that hard. He does it all the time playing WR.

Apparently it wasnt that easy.


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[NC_Skins]

The ref in the back ground should be suspended or at the least fined for this crap. There is no sense in why this wasn't called.

[CrustyRedskin]

Justin Tuck of New York Giants says Pittsburgh Steelers get benefit of calls - ESPN New York

[los panda]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The ref in the back ground should be suspended or at the least fined for this crap. There is no sense in why this wasn't called.

completely forgot about that non-call. some bs right thurr

[Monkeydad]

Or maybe Morgan just wanted to get the ball out of his hands before he was pancaked...not really caring about his QB's safety.

We should have run it with Banks...he has a better arm and if the pass wasn't open, he's running around the corner and goes into punt-return mode.

[The Goat]

Had a lazy afternoon so I watched the game again. Offensively, it looked like the first game to me where execution (drops) was a bigger problem than the play-calling/play-design. I counted only 8 plays that were flat out bad calls: five runs to the left when the Steelers had the box stacked for the run (two came on the first series, which was 3 and out); a designed keeper near the goal line, which is dumb as hell because by week 8 you'd expect every defense to key on RG3; the Morgan to RG3 pass; and two of the option reads. Technically that's nine, but the option worked a couple times too, so you could argue we only called it once too many, but it did get ID'd by the defense and blown up twice.

Defensively, it looks like this group has lost confidence in something. Coaching? Itself? I don't know, but there's no explosion off the ball and practically no pressure, because our front seven almost never win the battle one on one. Last year we did, at least a few times a game.

I guess what I wonder is if this group needs new motivation, or some sense of a fresh start. If the defense is flat again, especially at home, I think it's probably good timing to stick a new DC in there on an interim basis. If Raheem is even in the discussion for next year, no reason to wait till then. Let him do what ever he wants with defense Mike, it can't get any worse.

[CrustyRedskin]

Jim Haslett: 11-1

How does this guy still have a job or even made it through the first interview process!!!