@ Giants Final Gameday thread of the year !

Ivar the Boneless · 12-31-2017, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.

Kirk is a starting QB, and that is it. He has shown his max potential and like you said has no talent to work with. This guy hasn't done anything to warrant a raise, a raise mind you, that might keep us from getting better talent or keeping the guys that show promise. Do we keep a QB, but always have him surrounded by a rather talent deficient team, or dump the average QB and surround the new guy with a lot of talent? It is a damned if we do, damned if we don't type thing.

SFREDSKIN · 12-31-2017, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.

You are right good post, my anger got the best of me earlier. Plus who
Is to say Baker won’t be the 1st QB picked by the Browns.

Bishop Hammer · 12-31-2017, 04:47 PM

Great way to kick off the year.

Ivar the Boneless · 12-31-2017, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'd like to regroup and get Kirk some weapons and some of his guys back. He played like shit today but the sky isn't falling. This has been a rag tag team for the last several weeks.

This has been a rag tag group almost since Gruden came aboard. Remember 2015? We were ravaged by injuries as well. Our FA Wrs stayed healthy for the most part.

calia · 12-31-2017, 04:59 PM

Thank goodness we didn’t play the Browns today. Could you imagine being the team to end both winless streaks? And it would have happened too.

I’ll bet Mara ensures we play the NYG at home every week 17 from now on. Crazy how bad we are in that setting.

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HTTR · 12-31-2017, 05:02 PM

Like I keep saying, Kirk is baffling. There are one or two games a year where a truly top-10 QB needs to take control and make a statement. There are plenty of excuses for what happened today (blah, blah, blah), but Kirk has to own up to his part. I know he's the best statistical QB ever to play for us, but I don't trust him to win a playoff game.

Dan and Bruce have driven the bus into a ditch, and we're going to be here for a while.

Randall Nestor · 12-31-2017, 06:57 PM

Again I say if kirk would sign a salary cap friendly deal, then I say sign him. If not, then I say to get something for him and send him packing. He is not worth anywhere near 27 million. Colt can probably do that well and save us several million to get help else where. I would start with a top notch RB.

MTK · 12-31-2017, 08:09 PM

So what’s a “cap friendly deal” exactly?

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-31-2017, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

So what’s a “cap friendly deal” exactly?

This is really the jist of everything. It can be similarly phrased as how much is he worth? Unfortunately the answer is getting more difficult, not easier.

MTK · 12-31-2017, 08:24 PM

We just paid him $24m this year so let’s add 10% and go from there. If you think he needs to take less you’re simply not being realistic.

CRedskinsRule · 12-31-2017, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

We just paid him $24m this year so let’s add 10% and go from there. If you think he needs to take less you’re simply not being realistic.

I agree and 27-28 is what they should come to agreement on. Someone is going to offer that much. Over 28 and you have to consider letting him go.

DynamiteRave · 12-31-2017, 09:17 PM

I think Cousins could be better under a well established QB smart head coach.

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skinsfaninok · 12-31-2017, 09:19 PM

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I think Cousins could be better under a well established QB smart head coach.

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metalskins · 12-31-2017, 09:20 PM

One thing I will say, don't let contract negotiations linger on. The team needs to start now in building for 2018. So, let's take the guessing game out of this and get a deal down right away, or let's plan to move on and put a plan in place for 2018. As much as I like Cousins, you can't allow him to string this along deep into the offseason.

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calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 58 Posts: 4,023	Re: @ Giants Final Gameday thread of the year ! Thank goodness we didn’t play the Browns today. Could you imagine being the team to end both winless streaks? And it would have happened too. I’ll bet Mara ensures we play the NYG at home every week 17 from now on. Crazy how bad we are in that setting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?" "I'm all for it." -- Coach McKay

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HTTR Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 649	Re: @ Giants Final Gameday thread of the year ! Like I keep saying, Kirk is baffling. There are one or two games a year where a truly top-10 QB needs to take control and make a statement. There are plenty of excuses for what happened today (blah, blah, blah), but Kirk has to own up to his part. I know he's the best statistical QB ever to play for us, but I don't trust him to win a playoff game. Dan and Bruce have driven the bus into a ditch, and we're going to be here for a while. __________________ ____________________________________________ "There's the snap, hand to Riggins . . . he's gone, he's gone!"

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Randall Nestor Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 124	Re: @ Giants Final Gameday thread of the year ! Again I say if kirk would sign a salary cap friendly deal, then I say sign him. If not, then I say to get something for him and send him packing. He is not worth anywhere near 27 million. Colt can probably do that well and save us several million to get help else where. I would start with a top notch RB.

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MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,049	Re: @ Giants Final Gameday thread of the year ! We just paid him $24m this year so let’s add 10% and go from there. If you think he needs to take less you’re simply not being realistic. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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