Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies

skinsfan69 · 01-23-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

The reason that the O liked him is because they could score only two TDs and we would still win by 3 points.

LOL! Yeah you might be right on that one. But so much of being a good/great HC is not so much X/O's. It's being able to get the guys to play hard for you, trust you, respect you, believe in what you're saying. I also think your HC has to be able to instill some fear in you as well. I'm sorry but Jim Fassel just doesn't do it for me. He's more of a Norv Turner type. But in the end, if we have good players we'll win and that's the bottom line. It always comes down to who has the best players.

MTK · 01-23-2008, 11:21 AM

Just to throw this out there for discussion, why do we just assume it's all Snyder's fault?

Just for arguments sake what if Gibbs isn't 100% behind GW?

What if Williams was just a bad interview... or what if he wants too much control and or too much $$?

In the end Snyder is the one that is going to have to work closely with a new coach. Snyder is also the one that is the most informed about the potential candidates. As fans we know very little of what has gone on behind the scenes.

I think it's only fair that he brings in a guy that he's comfortable working with and someone that he feels is best for the job. Personally I'm going to hold off on my ultimate judgement until we see what the new HC is able to accomplish on the field. All of these emotional knee-jerk reactions are pretty silly and useless.

QBall · 01-23-2008, 11:31 AM

Snyder is no dumb guy. He has to know what the delay is causing so there must be a VERY good reason why its not Williams job already.

And yes, as fans we don't know what that is.

I would want anyone before Fassel in my opinion he's a lame duck.

Just don't know why Vinny and Snyder wouldn't interview Al Saunders for the job as a courtesy if you're gonna go Fassel?? The Fassel interveiw makes it fact that the first choice was Cower, then Carol, then anyone but Williams or our staff.

The Zimmermans · 01-23-2008, 11:43 AM

I couldn't be any more upset with Snyder than I am now. Fassel just got run out of two cities. WTF!!!!! The guy is definitely not the innovative mind we were looking for, and certainly not the disciplinarian. He's just FASSEL. The worst part is that this hire will run Williams out of town....who by the way, is the best coach on our staff. Everyone has a right to be angry, no matter which way you put it.

2BIG2BSKINNY · 01-23-2008, 11:45 AM

Don't like Fassell and can't get excited about the upcoming season. If the HC is GW then I can only think we will build on this year...just look at the giants run to the super bowl...get hot at the right time and you can punch your ticket. We are starting to do this but all will be for nothing when Fassel takes over.

ChillWill · 01-23-2008, 11:46 AM

If Fassel had his first interview on 1/11 then maybe Fassell was my
cousin Vinnies first choice all along.

Fassell makes as much since as Harbaugh in Baltimore. I don't
understand the process and how these coaches are choosen.
Baltimore has first-hand experience with Fassell and he was never considered for the job. It boils down to personality and who can be controlled. I do not believe GW is a yes man and not as diplomatic as JG and there's the rub.

2BIG2BSKINNY · 01-23-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just to throw this out there for discussion, why do we just assume it's all Snyder's fault?

Just for arguments sake what if Gibbs isn't 100% behind GW?

What if Williams was just a bad interview... or what if he wants too much control and or too much $$?

In the end Snyder is the one that is going to have to work closely with a new coach. Snyder is also the one that is the most informed about the potential candidates. As fans we know very little of what has gone on behind the scenes.

I think it's only fair that he brings in a guy that he's comfortable working with and someone that he feels is best for the job. Personally I'm going to hold off on my ultimate judgement until we see what the new HC is able to accomplish on the field. All of these emotional knee-jerk reactions are pretty silly and useless.

Great post but I think that thinking is valid! But...Snyder has not earned the right for this thinking!!!! we can only go on track record.

QBall · 01-23-2008, 11:50 AM

Fassel didn't get hired yet! Still could be Williams job, just no way of knowing anything. Also really sucks how our ENTIRE STAFF hasn't even been given a peep from Vinny or Dan, typical......

firstdown · 01-23-2008, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

I couldn't be any more upset with Snyder than I am now. Fassel just got run out of two cities. WTF!!!!! The guy is definitely not the innovative mind we were looking for, and certainly not the disciplinarian. He's just FASSEL. The worst part is that this hire will run Williams out of town....who by the way, is the best coach on our staff. Everyone has a right to be angry, no matter which way you put it.

I'm mad as he!! and I'm not going to take this anymore!

Hog1 · 01-23-2008, 11:59 AM

What he said!

Cap'nChaos47 · 01-23-2008, 12:04 PM

What bothers me is the secret talk... the mixed messages in the media, etc... I know more about the 27 presidential candidates (esp. candidates 13-27) then I do those being seriously considered for the Redskins HC job. We love football, we love our team, we'll do anything for them including hours upon hours on sites such as this to get the latest..... but it's not the freaking Commander in Chief!!! Throw a dog a bone every now and then - let the fanbase get excited and supportive of the organization. Instead - we are held out, nothing is released, etc. and it leads to this type of thread exactly. Hearsay, Guesses, Opinions and much to do about nothing.

GW could be the guy, part of me really wants this. Part of me releates this to a "We Are Marshall" type event. GW knows what these young men went through and continue to go through. How could having him HC not help these guys and the organization in the healing process. However, part of me is scared of GW due to his 'my way or the highway' attitude to matters and his performance with the Bills. Second chances are good, hopefully that holds true if he is hired.

Fassell, Shotts, Norv.... all these guys are the same to me. They're not a 'face' of a team and I think here in D.C. we have had that 'Face' HC (two times) and are a little uneasy as to how to act with simply a puppet as a HC, which I believe Fassell would be. Dan and Vinny holding the strings.

Cowher - something to get excited about, I just don't see it happening. Too many things point in another direction.

I honestly think GW deserves this job - he deserves the chance to see if his ''we don't have starters..." ideaology works from a team aspect as opposed to a defense only aspect........ Four interviews and nothing for over a week scares me though. God, I can only imagine what he must be thinking all day, every day.

In the end - it will work out. We will ALL support whomever the HC is, like it or not. If he starts out hot next year we'll love him. If he struggles we'll come here and bash him and his performance. Either way we're fans - it's not our call and we simply move on when the call is made.

I love this team - I love this franchise and I LOVE SINGING THAT WONDERFUL SONG AFTER POINTS SCORED!!!!

HAIL!!!

QBall · 01-23-2008, 12:06 PM

washingtonpost.com

MTK · 01-23-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by QBall

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

actually some sound points here by Wilbon:

But to the outside world it looks like Snyder, with all these meetings, is trying to find a reason to promote Williams . . . or a reason not to. And that's fine, because Snyder is the one who's going to be on the hook for, what, $12 million at the very least? He ought to make sure he's comfortable with the next coach.

What I really want to know is how this fancy new title changes Cerrato's life. If he's got the exact same duties and has input but no power to make football decisions, so what? If he's the Boss of All Things Football, a position I keep pushing Snyder to create, then this could be a significant step in the right direction. Cerrato has taken more criticism than anybody in the organization. But I know this much: His advice as to what to do was wiser in several instances than the course of action the Redskins took.

halidouepics · 01-23-2008, 12:18 PM

This is depressing me. I was mad about Fassell being interviewed back in 2004. Say it aint so!

SmootSmack · 01-23-2008, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just to throw this out there for discussion, why do we just assume it's all Snyder's fault?

Just for arguments sake what if Gibbs isn't 100% behind GW?

What if Williams was just a bad interview... or what if he wants too much control and or too much $$?

In the end Snyder is the one that is going to have to work closely with a new coach. Snyder is also the one that is the most informed about the potential candidates. As fans we know very little of what has gone on behind the scenes.

I think it's only fair that he brings in a guy that he's comfortable working with and someone that he feels is best for the job. Personally I'm going to hold off on my ultimate judgement until we see what the new HC is able to accomplish on the field. All of these emotional knee-jerk reactions are pretty silly and useless.

To add to that, while Fassel wouldn't be my first choice (don't know if Williams would either), to just declare a Redskins apocalypse because of him is simply idiotic. We don't know what other coaches will be hired, what free agents signed, trades made, draft picks selected. There is so much more to be done between now and opening day, beyond just picking a head coach.

01-23-2008, 11:21 AM	#227
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,592	Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies Just to throw this out there for discussion, why do we just assume it's all Snyder's fault? Just for arguments sake what if Gibbs isn't 100% behind GW? What if Williams was just a bad interview... or what if he wants too much control and or too much $$? In the end Snyder is the one that is going to have to work closely with a new coach. Snyder is also the one that is the most informed about the potential candidates. As fans we know very little of what has gone on behind the scenes. I think it's only fair that he brings in a guy that he's comfortable working with and someone that he feels is best for the job. Personally I'm going to hold off on my ultimate judgement until we see what the new HC is able to accomplish on the field. All of these emotional knee-jerk reactions are pretty silly and useless. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-23-2008, 11:31 AM	#228
QBall Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 351	Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies Snyder is no dumb guy. He has to know what the delay is causing so there must be a VERY good reason why its not Williams job already. And yes, as fans we don't know what that is. I would want anyone before Fassel in my opinion he's a lame duck. Just don't know why Vinny and Snyder wouldn't interview Al Saunders for the job as a courtesy if you're gonna go Fassel?? The Fassel interveiw makes it fact that the first choice was Cower, then Carol, then anyone but Williams or our staff. __________________ IT WAS THE TIME OF THE PREACHER.............IN THE YEAR OF 01'. NOW THAT THE LESSON IS OVER, THE KILLINGS BEGUN.......

01-23-2008, 11:43 AM	#229
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies I couldn't be any more upset with Snyder than I am now. Fassel just got run out of two cities. WTF!!!!! The guy is definitely not the innovative mind we were looking for, and certainly not the disciplinarian. He's just FASSEL. The worst part is that this hire will run Williams out of town....who by the way, is the best coach on our staff. Everyone has a right to be angry, no matter which way you put it. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

01-23-2008, 11:45 AM	#230
2BIG2BSKINNY Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 214	Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies Don't like Fassell and can't get excited about the upcoming season. If the HC is GW then I can only think we will build on this year...just look at the giants run to the super bowl...get hot at the right time and you can punch your ticket. We are starting to do this but all will be for nothing when Fassel takes over.

01-23-2008, 11:46 AM	#231
ChillWill Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 69 Posts: 151	Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies If Fassel had his first interview on 1/11 then maybe Fassell was my cousin Vinnies first choice all along. Fassell makes as much since as Harbaugh in Baltimore. I don't understand the process and how these coaches are choosen. Baltimore has first-hand experience with Fassell and he was never considered for the job. It boils down to personality and who can be controlled. I do not believe GW is a yes man and not as diplomatic as JG and there's the rub.

01-23-2008, 11:50 AM	#233
QBall Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 351	Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies Fassel didn't get hired yet! Still could be Williams job, just no way of knowing anything. Also really sucks how our ENTIRE STAFF hasn't even been given a peep from Vinny or Dan, typical...... __________________ IT WAS THE TIME OF THE PREACHER.............IN THE YEAR OF 01'. NOW THAT THE LESSON IS OVER, THE KILLINGS BEGUN.......

01-23-2008, 11:59 AM	#235
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies What he said! __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

01-23-2008, 12:04 PM	#236
Cap'nChaos47 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 38	Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies What bothers me is the secret talk... the mixed messages in the media, etc... I know more about the 27 presidential candidates (esp. candidates 13-27) then I do those being seriously considered for the Redskins HC job. We love football, we love our team, we'll do anything for them including hours upon hours on sites such as this to get the latest..... but it's not the freaking Commander in Chief!!! Throw a dog a bone every now and then - let the fanbase get excited and supportive of the organization. Instead - we are held out, nothing is released, etc. and it leads to this type of thread exactly. Hearsay, Guesses, Opinions and much to do about nothing. GW could be the guy, part of me really wants this. Part of me releates this to a "We Are Marshall" type event. GW knows what these young men went through and continue to go through. How could having him HC not help these guys and the organization in the healing process. However, part of me is scared of GW due to his 'my way or the highway' attitude to matters and his performance with the Bills. Second chances are good, hopefully that holds true if he is hired. Fassell, Shotts, Norv.... all these guys are the same to me. They're not a 'face' of a team and I think here in D.C. we have had that 'Face' HC (two times) and are a little uneasy as to how to act with simply a puppet as a HC, which I believe Fassell would be. Dan and Vinny holding the strings. Cowher - something to get excited about, I just don't see it happening. Too many things point in another direction. I honestly think GW deserves this job - he deserves the chance to see if his ''we don't have starters..." ideaology works from a team aspect as opposed to a defense only aspect........ Four interviews and nothing for over a week scares me though. God, I can only imagine what he must be thinking all day, every day. In the end - it will work out. We will ALL support whomever the HC is, like it or not. If he starts out hot next year we'll love him. If he struggles we'll come here and bash him and his performance. Either way we're fans - it's not our call and we simply move on when the call is made. I love this team - I love this franchise and I LOVE SINGING THAT WONDERFUL SONG AFTER POINTS SCORED!!!! HAIL!!! __________________ A Redskins advocate - Let's be honest... We'll love whoever Mr. Snyder picks as the Head Coach. HERE'S TO A PROMISING 2008 SEASON - NO MATTER WHAT LIES AROUND THE OFF-SEASON CORNERS!

01-23-2008, 12:06 PM	#237
QBall Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 351	Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies washingtonpost.com __________________ IT WAS THE TIME OF THE PREACHER.............IN THE YEAR OF 01'. NOW THAT THE LESSON IS OVER, THE KILLINGS BEGUN.......

01-23-2008, 12:18 PM	#239
halidouepics Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 12	Re: Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies This is depressing me. I was mad about Fassell being interviewed back in 2004. Say it aint so!

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