Broncos to trade Cutler

[djnemo65]

It's getting really difficult to defend this team. In the past, we've been willing to sacrifice depth at critical positions by trading draft picks for players who, while perhaps looking good on paper, couldn't come in and play right guard in late November after injuries had thinned the roster. This willingness to forgo depth in order to bring in older guys, rather than merely the signing of free agents, has been the problem. This year, although many were quick to describe our free agency binge as certain to yield predictable results, I argued that coupled with a renewed focus on the draft, adding key players at positions of need was not the same old Redskins.

If this goes down, and that's a big if, this is worse than the same old Skins. Worse than Deion Sanders, worse than anything. Nothing against Cutler, who appears to be a genuine talent, but this team has needs he can't fix. Last year through 8 games, Jason Campbell was being discussed as a potential MVP candidate. When the offense line predictably fell apart with injuries, the entire execution of the offense unraveled. It appeared to be clear to even the most casual NFL fan: fix the offensive line and then you'll see what you have at QB.

In trading for Cutler, we are postponing our ability to fix and replenish the line through the draft so far into the future that you have to wonder if it can ever actually happen with this team. More importantly, we are signaling to anyone paying attention that through 12 years of bumbling front-office ineptitude, we have not learned a single thing. In bailing on the QB he drafted and groomed, I think the Skins are saying all that needs to be said about the stability that Joe Gibbs brought back here.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

It's getting really difficult to defend this team. In the past, we've been willing to sacrifice depth at critical positions by trading draft picks for players who, while perhaps looking good on paper, couldn't come in and play right guard in late November after injuries had thinned the roster. This willingness to forgo depth in order to bring in older guys, rather than merely the signing of free agents, has been the problem. This year, although many were quick to describe our free agency binge as certain to yield predictable results, I argued that coupled with a renewed focus on the draft, adding key players at positions of need was not the same old Redskins.

If this goes down, and that's a big if, this is worse than the same old Skins. Worse than Deion Sanders, worse than anything. Nothing against Cutler, who appears to be a genuine talent, but this team has needs he can't fix. Last year through 8 games, Jason Campbell was being discussed as a potential MVP candidate. When the offense line predictably fell apart with injuries, the entire execution of the offense unraveled. It appeared to be clear to even the most casual NFL fan: fix the offensive line and then you'll see what you have at QB.

In trading for Cutler, we are postponing our ability to fix and replenish the line through the draft so far into the future that you have to wonder if it can ever actually happen with this team. More importantly, we are signaling to anyone paying attention that through 12 years of bumbling front-office ineptitude, we have not learned a single thing. In bailing on the QB he drafted and groomed, I think the Skins are saying all that needs to be said about the stability that Joe Gibbs brought back here.

Very good post. However if let's say Gibbs was still here. Would he feel the same way after watching average QB play the last two years? Remember Gibbs tried to trade for Elway and he was active in bringing in free agents. In the end I see what the FO is doing even though I may not agree with them. They're thinking Cutler has the ability to make everyone around him better so why not try to improve the position? Some of us may not want to admit it but Cutler is simply a better Qb than JC is.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

It's getting really difficult to defend this team. In the past, we've been willing to sacrifice depth at critical positions by trading draft picks for players who, while perhaps looking good on paper, couldn't come in and play right guard in late November after injuries had thinned the roster. This willingness to forgo depth in order to bring in older guys, rather than merely the signing of free agents, has been the problem. This year, although many were quick to describe our free agency binge as certain to yield predictable results, I argued that coupled with a renewed focus on the draft, adding key players at positions of need was not the same old Redskins.

If this goes down, and that's a big if, this is worse than the same old Skins. Worse than Deion Sanders, worse than anything. Nothing against Cutler, who appears to be a genuine talent, but this team has needs he can't fix. Last year through 8 games, Jason Campbell was being discussed as a potential MVP candidate. When the offense line predictably fell apart with injuries, the entire execution of the offense unraveled. It appeared to be clear to even the most casual NFL fan: fix the offensive line and then you'll see what you have at QB.

In trading for Cutler, we are postponing our ability to fix and replenish the line through the draft so far into the future that you have to wonder if it can ever actually happen with this team. More importantly, we are signaling to anyone paying attention that through 12 years of bumbling front-office ineptitude, we have not learned a single thing. In bailing on the QB he drafted and groomed, I think the Skins are saying all that needs to be said about the stability that Joe Gibbs brought back here.

Basically this is gonna happen and this fing sucks. I am sick of it. I really just want to cry.

I cant freaking believe it. After all this patience bullshit VC and DS f up again. God these people have some serious problems. These guys just cant wait, and build something they want to see a overnight turnover. ARGHHHHHHHH I cant take it. I dont want to renounce my fanhood but this is really pushing it for me.

We are gonna lose a sweet ass LB or Olineman at 13 plus a 2nd AND JC. This is outta control

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by hooskins

We are gonna lose a sweet ass LB or Olineman at 13 plus a 2nd AND JC. This is outta control

Lol, thats if they let us off easy.

[Nflnick11]

I hope that this whole cutler situation is just a big April fools joke that bowlen, florio, and snyder are in on...haha you got me..haha?!?

[BleedBurgundy]

This really can't happen this quickly. It just doesn't make sense from the Broncos' perspective. Why would they take any deal now instead of spending the next few weeks trying to drive up the market? We're not going to learn anything anytime soon. Let's all hope that one of these other teams overwhelms them with compensation we can't match. But who, other than El Snyder, would do that?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

This really can't happen this quickly. It just doesn't make sense from the Broncos' perspective. Why would they take any deal now instead of spending the next few weeks trying to drive up the market? We're not going to learn anything anytime soon. Let's all hope that one of these other teams overwhelms them with compensation we can't match. But who, other than El Snyder, would do that?

Well they are idiots in the Broncos FO too, Denver could get the #1 overall pick from the Lions (among other things), they could get Brady Quinn, Shaun Rogers and a ton of picks from Cleveland, they could get a lot of picks from the Jets, etc., etc. But they are going to want to send him to the NFC, and since stupid Danny wants him, they'll trade him for less.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well they are idiots in the Broncos FO too, Denver could get the #1 overall pick from the Lions (among other things), they could get Brady Quinn, Shaun Rogers and a ton of picks from Cleveland, they could get a lot of picks from the Jets, etc., etc. But they are going to want to send him to the NFC, and since stupid Danny wants him, they'll trade him for less.

I get your logic, but let me respond with this question: When the hell have we ever gotten ANYTHING for "less?" We always pay double, that's just how we roll.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I get your logic, but let me respond with this question: When the hell have we ever gotten ANYTHING for "less?" We always pay double, that's just how we roll.

I know this is going to sound a bit ridiculous, but let's say that we trade our first rounder and Jason Campbell for Cutler. Giving up the #13 is a lot for us since we only have four picks, and we cannot bring in a young star (good-bye oher, maulauga, etc., etc.). Yet getting Campbell and the #13 is probably less than what other teams would be able to give Denver.

[Skinny Tee]

The only way I'm going to like this is if we get additional picks with Cutler. If we get their first in exchange for ours and then come away with a 2nd rounder I wouldn't mind whoever is QB. None of that will happen however because that's extremely lopsided.

My only hope is that we come away with additional picks in this year's draft. God bless Campbell for putting up with this kind of crap, professionally speaking.

[Skinny Tee]

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It is getting out of hand. Now there are rumors of the Skins wanting to move Campbell regardless of Cutler.

[Dirtbag59]

Lol, another offensive system for JC. Poor guy.

[mrreddman]

I love Cutler and don't really think he is a cry baby. Would I trade Campbell for him straight up?...Hell yes. Would I get into a bidding war with 10 teams for him?...HELL NO!
If reports are correct, they want a starting QB, a starting defensive player AND a high draft pick(s)?!...WTF? That's just too high a price to pay when we ..
1.) already have a capable QB in place..
2.) have a second year guy in Colt that they seem to love.
3.) have major needs at OLB, RT, C/G
Tell Denver to go suck a fat one!!. Denver is the team in a bind with a player who wants out and they have already stated they are gonna trade him....why should we overpay in that situation?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by mrreddman

I love Cutler and don't really think he is a cry baby. Would I trade Campbell for him straight up?...Hell yes. Would I get into a bidding war with 10 teams for him?...HELL NO!
If reports are correct, they want a starting QB, a starting defensive player AND a high draft pick(s)?!...WTF? That's just too high a price to pay when we ..
1.) already have a capable QB in place..
2.) have a second year guy in Colt that they seem to love.
3.) have major needs at OLB, RT, C/G
Tell Denver to go suck a fat one!!. Denver is the team in a bind with a player who wants out and they have already stated they are gonna trade him....why should we overpay in that situation?

Great post!! Thank you! Campbell for Cutler straight up, I agree. The sad part is that probably Danny will suck "the big one" and over pay as usual. I hope not.

[GTripp0012]

Uh, does this sound like an organization that isn't serious about screwing itself?

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