Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[30gut]

Originally Posted by biffle

'50% of 1st round QBs succeed' is a statistic.

Using that to say 'Griffin has a 50% chance of success' is a terrible use of that statistic. And using it as a basis for draft decisions even more so.

I tried to show you examples to illustrate that, but it seemed pretty clear you weren't going to listen regardless so I gave up.

C'mon now you're gonna play semantics?
Dude just use the quote feature.
My statement is as I intend is right here:

With Griffin the gamble is the same as with any rookie QB where historically the success rate is right around 50/50 its even lower when using the 'franchise' QB or 'elite' QB label as the measure of success

No need to add or spin it or make assumptions from it.

And again:

Originally Posted by 30gut

And the larger point, which is lost on you, is that Peyton Manning has already proven himself to be what we hope Griffin will become.

[diehard]

It seems like some posters have beef with other posters.

[biffle]

Originally Posted by diehard

It seems like some posters have beef with other posters.

No one invited me over for beef.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by diehard

It seems like some posters have beef with other posters.

Not on my end I'm easy breezy.
I come on here to talk football and in an internet forum conversations/discussion can sometimes devolve into quibbling, which I try to avoid.

I try and post in a conversational manner the same way I would talk to a guy sitting next to me watching a game at a sports bar.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Not on my end I'm easy breezy.
I come on here to talk football and in an internet forum conversations/discussion can sometimes devolve into quibbling, which I try to avoid.

I try and post in a conversational manner the same way I would talk to a guy sitting next to me watching a game at a sports bar.

Cover Girl?

[los panda]

i'll be praying in the bathroom if anyone needs me

[los panda]

did your attorney prepare that post?

[That Guy]

too much waaah... a two option poll shouldn't need 287+ posts like this. it's circular and annoying.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by That Guy

too much waaah... a two option poll shouldn't need 287+ posts like this. it's circular and annoying.

I imagine it's only gonna get worse after the combine and pro days...

[los panda]

and it gave me night terrors last night

[British Andy]

Personally, I would settle for either. Either way is an upgrade on Rex v Beck.

[SBXVII]

Its a wrap folks. PFT says the fans of Washington don't want P.Manning.
There’s a lot anti-Manning sentiment in Washington | ProFootballTalk

However some of you say we shouldn't listen to PFT with their hack writers. How funny he fails to list the commontators who are for having P.Manning here in Washington. Well the good news is PFT is only speaking for Washington, the very not bright people who would re-elect Mayor Berry after his "I accidently smoked from the crack pipe" incident. I'm so glad he didn't talk about the hooker he had bring it to his motel.

Maybe the writer should see what VA and MD thinks about P.Manning coming to the Skins.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Its a wrap folks. PFT says the fans of Washington don't want P.Manning.
There’s a lot anti-Manning sentiment in Washington | ProFootballTalk

However some of you say we shouldn't listen to PFT with their hack writers. How funny he fails to list the commontators who are for having P.Manning here in Washington. Well the good news is PFT is only speaking for Washington, the very not bright people who would re-elect Mayor Berry after his "I accidently smoked from the crack pipe" incident. I'm so glad he didn't talk about the hooker he had bring it to his motel.

Maybe the writer should see what VA and MD thinks about P.Manning coming to the Skins.

All of the writers quoted in the PFT article speak from a flawed either/or perspective. Their argument is that we should be developing our own QB rather than signing Manning as if only one of those moves is an option.

It seems clear to me that we could do both: add Manning AND add a home-developed QB for the future. If I am correct then all of the arguments quoted by PFT are meaningless.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Lotus

All of the writers quoted in the PFT article speak from a flawed either/or perspective. Their argument is that we should be developing our own QB rather than signing Manning as if only one of those moves is an option.

It seems clear to me that we could do both: add Manning AND add a home-developed QB for the future. If I am correct then all of the arguments quoted by PFT are meaningless.

What would the specifics be? Sign Peyton Manning in free agency and draft Ryan Tannehill or Nick Foles in the 2nd round of the draft and develop whichever one we pick? This way, the Redskins keep their picks instead of trading up for RG3.

The other option would be to let Peyton Manning be, sign a veteran free agent QB to take over for Grossman or even keep Rex, and then use whatever ammunition we have to trade up and select RG3 2nd overall.


I like the second option the best. The only thing is maybe sacrificing high draft choices in the move to get RG3. But unlike Manning, RG3 has played football in the past year, is 14 years younger than Manning, and has his best years ahead of him. Peyton Manning on the other hand while still capable of playing at a high enough level, has been inactive since the 2010 playoffs, has had surgery on his neck, and although he's been cleared by doctors to play, is only a short term solution at QB, and is in the twilight of his career.

That said, RG3 is the better option than Manning.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Its a wrap folks. PFT says the fans of Washington don't want P.Manning.
There’s a lot anti-Manning sentiment in Washington | ProFootballTalk

However some of you say we shouldn't listen to PFT with their hack writers. How funny he fails to list the commontators who are for having P.Manning here in Washington. Well the good news is PFT is only speaking for Washington, the very not bright people who would re-elect Mayor Berry after his "I accidently smoked from the crack pipe" incident. I'm so glad he didn't talk about the hooker he had bring it to his motel.

Maybe the writer should see what VA and MD thinks about P.Manning coming to the Skins.

The first thing PFT got wrong is they listened to Jason Reid.